What is going with the Paypal module? EU, USA modules?



  • I did not test Bees Paypal module, but I have noticed on Prestashop that there are 2 or 3 modules.

    One for EU, 2nd for USA, Canada, why it happen?

    Is it the same for Bees module?

    Any solution?
    At the moment I use old Paypal module.



  • Website Payments Plus - what is that?
    I wanted to google it but there is no info.

    only info about Paypal Pro.

    "Legacy methods such as Hosted Payment Solutions, PayPal Payments Advanced and Payflow Link will not return. PayPal wants to discontinue these services and replace some of those with the other solutions they provide or with Braintree."
    Is there any link to read more about it?



  • I have some improvements to paypal. Where I can put my experiences?

    I have noticed that very often Paypal block payments by card (debit, credit).
    It is not blocked by limits on customer side (eg. daily limits) but only by Paypal.

    I have got info from Paypal that they block a payment when customer is using multiple times payment by card and don’t want to open a paypal account.

    I am talking about situation where cust have only card, not a Paypal account and connected a card there.

    I did not test Bees module but on Prestashop there was a poor error handling.
    No info to customer what he should do next, e.g try again or use other payment method.

    Sometimes on Paypal when customer have two cards 1 expired and 2nd new, Paypal use 1st card and there is an error, when customer use it 2nd time (second try to purchase) the payment will be OK.

    I have tested it many times.

    I can provide you more info error codes if you want to implement it.



  • Paypal became a big problem in Canada lately. I can share what I learned so far…

    1. The REST API is NOT supported in Canada for credit card validation.
    2. Paypal website payment Pro has been deprecated, meaning you can NO LONGER create API signatures for that in your Paypal account.
    3. The Paypal website payment Pro signatures that were already created and working can still be used (thankfully).
    4. I only found 1 TB’s compatible Paypal module that work for on-site credit card validation in Canada at the moment and it is PayPal Pro v1.4.3 - by Presto-Changeo.
    5. I could configure and make it work properly using my old API signature that I am currently using on my old website. There is NO WAY to get them anymore in your Paypal account so if you did not save these infos somewhere, you are lost.

    Website payment Pro has been deprecated and replaced by Paypal payment Pro (I’m so lost with these different names they are using) and I don’t even know if there are any Canada-compatible modules that supports that already.

    This is all I know for now, will stick with PayPal Pro v1.4.3 - by Presto-Changeo as long as possible until it fails… and by then I really hope there will be a usable solution for Canada.



  • @mdekker said in What is going with the Paypal module? EU, USA modules?:

    But I can’t find any info on Payments Pro being deprecated tbh.

    Look again 😉 --> https://developer.paypal.com/docs/classic/api/#website-payments-pro

    Note: Website Payments Pro is deprecated and has been replaced by PayPal Payments Pro. Website Payments Pro is still supported for existing merchants.



  • @mdekker said in What is going with the Paypal module? EU, USA modules?:

    That really means no future for those anymore. PayPal must have an alternative then.

    That’s what I am trying to find out since the REST API is NOT supported in Canada…

    The old API still works for now… but for how long ?



  • @mdekker said in What is going with the Paypal module? EU, USA modules?:

    I see that Canadian Dollars can be accepted via the REST API. It would be strange not to connect Canadians with the REST API.

    I will dig it, I have read it somewhere in the docs… they wont accept direct credit card payments using the REST API in Canada.

    Direct Credit Card Payments

    For direct credit card payments, PayPal accepts buyer credit cards issued in any country. However, the >merchant must have a Pro UK merchant account with PayPal to process PayPal REST API direct credit card >payments. This is the only supported merchant account for REST API direct credit card payments at this >time. UK Pro merchants can refer to supported currencies for details.

    I have read something more explicit… will post back.



  • Will have to check Braintree in details, never looked at it.

    My finance dept wanted to stay with Paypal since they are already used to it. I wanted to stay with them for simplicity… but it is anything but simple these days, even Paypal docs are contradictory.



  • Important: Website Payments Pro has been replaced in the US and Canada by PayPal Payments Pro. >Website Payments Pro is still supported for new merchants in the UK and for previously integrated >merchants in the US and Canada. For PayPal Payments Pro integration information, see the PayPal >Payments Pro / Payflow documentation.

    I’m not sure what the difference is… they barely changed the name, it’s hard to understand.



  • Do they have to use PayPal’s systems or are they just used to using PayPal?

    Just used to using it, they don’t like change 😉

    I wanted to go with our debit card processor (Moneris) at first but there is only one module for Prestashop and wanted to go with a more widespread technology (Paypal). Thinking about future support here, I don’t want to write a full module all my myself…



  • @ssimard PayPal bought Braintree some years ago and I think they might have the goal of moving their direct credit card processing business off the PayPal platform and onto Braintree. AFAIK they haven’t stated this publicly but the changes they are making kinda-sorta-maybe (it’s PayPal after all…) seem to point in that direction.



  • @ssimard said in What is going with the Paypal module? EU, USA modules?:

    Paypal became a big problem in Canada lately. I can share what I learned so far…

    1. The REST API is NOT supported in Canada for credit card validation.
    2. Paypal website payment Pro has been deprecated, meaning you can NO LONGER create API signatures for that in your Paypal account.
    3. The Paypal website payment Pro signatures that were already created and working can still be used (thankfully).
    4. I only found 1 TB’s compatible Paypal module that work for on-site credit card validation in Canada at the moment and it is PayPal Pro v1.4.3 - by Presto-Changeo.
    5. I could configure and make it work properly using my old API signature that I am currently using on my old website. There is NO WAY to get them anymore in your Paypal account so if you did not save these infos somewhere, you are lost.

    Website payment Pro has been deprecated and replaced by Paypal payment Pro (I’m so lost with these different names they are using) and I don’t even know if there are any Canada-compatible modules that supports that already.

    This is all I know for now, will stick with PayPal Pro v1.4.3 - by Presto-Changeo as long as possible until it fails… and by then I really hope there will be a usable solution for Canada.

    @ssimard You can get it from database too, it was in plain text if I remember.



  • Why they want to make a change? New system, newer solution or new manager who have a project 😉 ?



  • @mdekker Thank you

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  • https://www.paypal.com/de/webapps/mpp/paypal-plus
    It is only for German paypal.
    It have EC and Rechnung.

    Rechnung how this rechnung really works?
    Is it like pay by collection?

    and

    https://developer.paypal.com/docs/classic/products/payflow-gateway/
    I was not aware that something like it exist (:



  • @mdekker said in What is going with the Paypal module? EU, USA modules?:

    OT: would Braintree be a better alternative? I see they apply a very simple pricing scheme:
    NA: 2.9% + $.30
    EU: 1.9% + €0.30

    My goal is to build this new website and get it online asap. I will eventually check into alternatives if Paypal ever fails but as long as I can keep using it, I think I will.

    Once Paypal Payment Pro is added into the native module we should be fine here I assume.

    But I will definitely investigate on Braintree after that.



  • @mdekker is Braintree is better then Stripe?
    it seems cost more

    1.4% + 20p for European cards. UK
    2.9% + 20p for non-European cards.

    1.4% + €0.25 for European cards. DE
    2.9% + €0.25 for non-European cards.

    2.9% + 30¢ per successful card charge USA

    I am thinking if it would be possible to get a better price for our community.
    If we would collect all members who use Stripe and contact them and ask if they can give us (Bees) better price.

    What do you think about this idea? I can contact with them if we will find a number of users.



  • Many European users will stay away from Stripe because of their payout policy. Also Japan has the same problem we found out yesterday



  • what problem? that they keep money for a week?

    the same is in Skrill, they can keep also
    Amazon also keep money and if they want can keep it longer



  • what is the best payment method for EU
    especially for DACH countries (Germany Austria Swizerland) France and UK

    2 ) for USA ?


 

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