Eager to migrate from Prestashop 1.6



  • So I’ve been running my shop on Presashop 1.6 for a while now, and I “hate” it because all of the bugs. Why do I still use it then? Well, I invested months and months of time learning it and a lot of cash in modules, plus it’s the only system I know of that does true multi-currency and is still open source.

    Now, ever since I first heard of Thirthybees I’ve been super excited about it. So the big question is:

    • Now that thirtybees 1.0.0 is out - how do we Prestashop 1.6 users migrate as smoothly as possible without having to re-build the entire store from the ground up?
    • What problems could we expect in the migration process?
    • What’s the recommended way of doing a test migration before going live with the PS 1.6 -> TB migrated install?

    btw, love the new forum. Blazing fast, easy to navigate.

    Love,
    John P. Koskimaa - supergangu.com


  • Global Moderator

    Michael Dekker is working on “auto” migration. You should wait till this module is out.

    When it’s out keep in mind, that you should always make backups before you do a migration. I always make a clone of my live shop and then proceed it (upgrate/migartion) first there and see what happens.



  • @wakabayashi said in Eager to migrate from Prestashop 1.6:

    Michael Dekker is working on “auto” migration. You should wait till this module is out.

    When it’s out keep in mind, that you should always make backups before you do a migration. I always make a clone of my live shop and then proceed it (upgrate/migartion) first there and see what happens.

    Thanks for the response! Ok, got it - I’ve worked with Michael before, he’s a great guy. Gonna sit tight for the migration module, then!

    Regarding doing a clone of the live shop - what’s your favorite way of doing so? I don’t want to end up with multiple database copies that I don’t know which one is live/most recent and screw everything up. / versioning noob.

    For the record, I do backup my shop every day through Codeguard. Don’t think their service allows cloning/testing though.


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    Well I do it like that:

    1. I just copy my whole ps folder to another server or subfolder.
    2. I create a new database and import the data
    3. I change shop_url table
    4. I change config datas

    All steps are very important. If you don’t know what you are doing. you should be very careful…



  • @wakabayashi said in Eager to migrate from Prestashop 1.6:

    Michael Dekker is working on “auto” migration. You should wait till this module is out.
    When it’s out keep in mind, that you should always make backups before you do a migration. I always make a clone of my live shop and then proceed it (upgrade/migration) first there and see what happens.

    @wakabayashi said in Eager to migrate from Prestashop 1.6:

    Well I do it like that:

    1. I just copy my whole ps folder to another server or subfolder.
    2. I create a new database and import the data
    3. I change shop_url table
    4. I change config datas

    All steps are very important. If you don’t know what you are doing. you should be very careful…

    @koskimaa, thanks for asking what I was about to.
    @wakabayashi - I don’t know how to do steps 2, 3 and 4, so I’ll wait for Michael Dekker’s “auto” migration.



  • @Global-Moderators

    I have thirtybees 1.0.0 on my server in a subdomain. Is there anything safe to copy into it from my PS 1.6.1.8 live site, before we have the auto migration tool?

    Is it worth it to do that, or is it best to just wait? Michael, how long is the wait? :)



  • I’m kinda with alwayspaws here, I wouldn’t really know what I’d be doing if I tried step 2-4 on my own. Having some kind of documentation or tutorial on this would be nice - I’d make one if I knew how, of course.



  • Thanks for agreeing with me, @koskimaa.

    The moderators / admins promised to have an auto migration tool and documentation, which they will, because they know we’re depending on them (smile), but we have to wait until it’s ready. It’s just with all the excitement being generated, it’s hard to be patient!

    This is a big project and they need more volunteers, which is why I wish I knew coding. :)


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    Just wanna say. If you don’t know how to clone your shop, you shouldn’t try to migrate withouth the modul. Just wait.

    To make to clone, is actually not really TB related. But it’s also not that hard. Maybe here is somebody, which finds time to make a little movie tutorial!? Problem is always, that your provider don’t have the same software. Some use cpanel, some plesk…



  • @wakabayashi True, true. It’s when databases gets in the picture where I don’t always exactly know what to do. I use Siteground which provides cpanel. They’re OK but I would much rather switch to a TB optimized hosting partner when the migration is complete.


  • Global Moderator

    ThirtyBees will soon launch a cooperation with Cloudways. This seems to be your way to go. Cloudways is not expensive, but offer a good speed. There the cloning process also works bit differently. So I would just wait and invest time to improve other things of your store.



  • @wakabayashi yeah I saw that and looked into it a little bit. cloudways looks promising! Paying 30 usd per month for hosting that just barely runs my shop OK. Is there any info on best practices for getting TB up and running with a CDN, and which service is recommended?


  • administrators

    Some updates on the migration module:
    We are currently figuring out what the best way is to migrate from PrestaShop. Yesterday I have migrated my own store ( and I’m currently overloaded with new orders :open_mouth: ) and had a few problems which I needed to solve first. If we can iron these out, then the first step is completed.

    The second step is to write these down, document them on our docs site: https://docs.thirtybees.com/

    After that we will start working on the migration module, but we do not set a deadline for the module. Deadlines kill software, but I want you to know that we are working on it!



  • Thanks for taking the time to update here Michael.



  • Michael, thanks for the updates. It’s good that you migrated your own store to see what needs tweaking. I’m sending you and crosscut01 a “virtual” upvote. :) (Can’t vote any more today, for those who don’t understand this).

    “No deadlines” is the way to go. A little less pressure and a lot less aggravation!



  • @wakabayashi
    How should it be possible to export and import variants?
    Also Orders can currently not be imported exported or better.
    You say “I create a new database and import the data” that sounds as if it is not a problem.

    In reality, however, it is not so easy.

    @mdekker
    You say:
    “After that we will start working on the migration module, but we do not set a deadline for the module. Deadlines kill software, but I want you to know that we are working on it!”

    There are some who have great interest in how you did it. Maybe someone can participate in your previous steps.
    Maybe even someone can write a documentation or develop a different way.
    It does not always have to be the Liveshop.


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    @Lausli said in Eager to migrate from Prestashop 1.6:

    @wakabayashi
    How should it be possible to export and import variants?
    Also Orders can currently not be imported exported or better.
    You say “I create a new database and import the data” that sounds as if it is not a problem.

    I gave a short explanation how to do a clone. It was not a tutorial, how to migrate to TB. If you read my posts here, you see, that I was always recommending to wait for the migration tool…



  • If this works, 30B could be a viable alternative to PS!
    Much excite, very await.



  • I’m also excited for the easy migration module. :)


  • administrators

    There are still a few dependencies, though, that need to be fulfilled first:

    Documenting the migration and release 1.0.1 first.


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