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    Update on thirty bees

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    Strange, I'll check this out. This kind of modules are a very important thing for this project.

    I never tried cart2cart due to their pricing, but I did try some migration modules and never had issues, despite migrating some huge databases. I am sure that most customers would rather pay $120 for a re-usable module (even if they need to re-start the process to continue) than $900 for a limited service that does essentially the same job (and if you are a programmer, you can even improve the purchased module to do even more).

    Update on thirty bees

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    cart2cart are insanely expensive and their product offering is normally a one time deal, so if you want to go through the process while developing, and then re-do it while you deploy, it's gonna be crazy. True story - I contacted them to migrate osCommerce shop with 100,000 products to another platform. They quoted a 2-3 business days work with a $900 fee. I bought a module that did the same exact job for a fraction of that price and I re-used it several times while I did the migration. Now, I totally get you want and need that revenue but don't you think that by offering cheaper migration tools to the community - you are going to enlarge the user base, which is something this project needs the most at the moment?

    Update on thirty bees

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    @dosbiner said in Update on thirty bees:

    @doclucas said in Update on thirty bees:

    I think it would be very wise to: 1) Add a full features comparison table for PS 1.6 vs TB 1.x to the "why us" page. 2) Partner with the major & good quality module developers (such as presto-changeo, Knowband etc.) to add a section for thirtybees on their websites and test their modules for TB compatibility (and adapt them if needed). It's win-win for both them (more revenue) and the platform's success. 3) Add a changelog of all the recent versions, since 1.0.3 till 1.0.6 and moving forward

    Great ideas, 4) future road map is a must I think

    A road map is already displayed, or at least a placeholder, but it's not set because it probably hasn't been planned yet.

    I forgot to add to point 2 - ask those PS 1.6 module developers to report any reproducible compatibility issue with TB so that your dev/s can resolve them. The wider compatibility TB has with PS 1.6 add-ons, the higher chance it has to gain a much wider user base.

    Update on thirty bees

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    I think it would be very wise to: 1) Add a full features comparison table for PS 1.6 vs TB 1.x to the "why us" page. 2) Partner with the major & good quality module developers (such as presto-changeo, Knowband etc.) to add a section for thirtybees on their websites and test their modules for TB compatibility (and adapt them if needed). It's win-win for both them (more revenue) and the platform's success. 3) Add a changelog of all the recent versions, since 1.0.3 till 1.0.6 and moving forward

    Call for votes for (or against) upgrading Smarty

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    @lesley said in Call for votes for (or against) upgrading Smarty:

    As for the feature requests, we are not implementing any new features into the 1.0.x branch. If we do, we will never leave the branch and will be at 1.0.187 before we know it, with no real core progress.

    And what's wrong with that? If the 1.0.x is working very well and well accepted by the community, who said it must be so heavily modified? or even worse - must be upgraded to a core that is no longer backward compatible with PS? Modifying the core components (such as smarty) and refactoring the code for php 7.2+ is already a great move forward. Keeping up with those upgrades while adding more features, modules on the same 1.0.x branch can be very useful for this project and help increase the user base, trust and loyalty.

    Call for votes for (or against) upgrading Smarty

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    I know you already read my opinions, but anyway, I am voting for strategy 1: Upgrade Smarty to the latest version (3.1.32) on the 1.0.x development branch. keep compatibility with PrestaShop 1.6 modules and themes by adapting the "bridging" code (such as code in smarty.config.inc.php) to the new smarty version. If done right, no template and modules will have any issues. The issues reported by @lesley were most likely due to smarty being upgraded without adapting the core to it. As I suggested before, you can also look at PS 1.7 smarty bridges and backport some or all of their changes, as they use the latest smarty. Again, just doing the composer update will surely break things. You must modify the bridging code first. I am happy to beta test it for you when you are ready. You already have quite a beautiful core (especially compared with PS 1.6). It needs a few components upgrades (smarty etc.) and PHP 7.2 compatibility fixes, and it can become a great platform to continue building on.

    Also, as @datakick suggested, it may be good, if not too much of a headache, to keep both smarty versions and let users switch between them. If it's too much of a headache, then just do the excellent 3.1.32

    Frankly, without being too dramatic, I think that moving to a core that will no longer be PS compatible may become a death sentence to this project at this stage. Watch out!

    Say hello to release 1.0.5!

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    @MockoB Prestashop was just an example of a project that I know you are familiar with, which I listed because you wrote "I can’t imagine open source project with CEO, I think that both are completely incompatible conceptions." Not to vouch for their CEO's performance (which may or may not be good, I don't form opinions based on your forum or Safari experiences :rollingonthefloorlaughing: ) . Seems like most people don't know much about large & successful open-source projects and how they are being managed, so I will skip further public discussion about these matters as they seem to lead nowhere productive. If anyone really wants to learn more , I suggest you google projects like: OpenCog, Kubernetes, Magento, Red Hat, Ubuntu, Wordpress and many many more.

    Say hello to release 1.0.5!

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    @MockoB There are practically zillion open source projects with CEOs/CTOs etc. (some are/were doing amazing job and some not so, but I digress). Here is one project you probably know: https://www.prestashop.com/en/press-releases/2018/03/08/prestashop-appoints-alexandre-eruimy-as-its-new-ceo-and-launches-prestatrust-a-traceability-system-based-on-blockchain-innovation

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