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You right, this rounding method (up away from zero) sometimes also called as 'banking rounding' - it helps to relief the rounding errors accumulation.

It is strange when merchant talks about possible upgrade/migration of production environment without testing on any kind of sandboxed new/other product instance... Even more strange to hear about stability issues of TB/PS. IMO this is kind of myth. Such grands as Oracle/IBM/HP/SAP and others has/had huge problems with stability, bugs, cratches, et c., some of their very famous software has bugs unfixed for years.

@DavidP , have you tried to play with option "Quantity discounts based on" ? Just interesting will that option have any effect in your case? Same about rounding options - there are at least 18 possible variations of rounding. Again it is interesting - are you really didn't found what you need among that?

To tell the truth, even 'vanilla' PS not always did the backups correctly. Then what to do if someone have installed some modules, which are adds some extra tables and/or fields to the database? 1-click upgrade and builtin backup tool won't make a backup of that extra data. As far as i remember, in all PS documentation and help/tips it was explicitly noted not to rely on 'standard' backup tools, but to make extra backups manually. So, IMO, the tools like phpMyAdmin, HeidiSQL and SFTP/FTP/SSH are not an option.

Also there's an excellent Open Server https://ospanel.io - it has all needed for TB, including not only AMP, but also nginx, redis, memcache and dozens of other modules, you can dynamically change the version of any modules. Also it is equipped with tons of free utils. IMO, it is one of the best tools of WAMP world. Unfortunately website only in Russian, but it is possible to use the google translator.However, the package itself has the English translation.

@davidp said in Product Bundle feature like Magento: Sure you can offer pre-made bundles that they can ‘click and buy’ but if you’re catering to a specific custom built market that’s what they want, ‘click, click, click … buy’ not ‘click, navigate, click, navigate, click…buy’. The trick is to offer multiple methods including simple products, bundles and custom bundles to cater to all types of customers. You words just prove an idea that there's no general-purpose solution for custom built market. And you right, your point to offer multiple methods is exactly a trick. I stand that i have to use not tricks, but exact mathematical model of my business: what categories are belongs to "A" group from the ABC analysis, which of them belongs to "B" group and then to make a prepackaged offerings for those of my customers who'll bring me 90% of earnings. For remains i'll offer my personal assistance with a great pleasure - this also will increase a confidency/loyalty level. And you're 146% right describing an ideal aim of ecommerce - "click-and-buy". All sales coaches accents this simple think: the merchant's primary role is to make decisions for a client, and often instead of him/her Let's see the such leaders as DELL, HP, IBM/Lenovo, Fujitsu, their reselers and others, and compared it. Most of them don't have something like magento bundles. Absolutely.

@davidp said in Product Bundle feature like Magento: This is a very common scenario, it’s not specialist. As it stands now many of our customers find it easier to pick up the phone and talk to one of our sales guys because they get frustrated with using the website and going to each and every one product. At the end of the day the issue isn’t how complicated the software is, it’s how easy it should be for the customer to buy from the website. This is exactly what i'm talking about. If you give a million of choises for client then he/she inevitably will be frustrated, independently of how deep you've authomated your ecommerce site. And he/she definitely will call a manager for help with choise. I've noted that the grand's sites doesn't give much choises to clients - usually there's a quite few promotions with in most cases fixed configuration/feature selection and very small number of options. I mentioned Sun Microsystems above as a bright example: they gave access to the configurator only to those customers, who obtained a specific courses and passed an exam - i.e. definitely having enough knowledge to make a choise. And even in that case, when i've configured some configurations, i had to call Sun's managers to verify my order.

There's VERY powerfil/feature-rich solution suitable for your needs. I talking about IDEMPIERE There's one small "contra": it does not have an integration with PS/TB now. However, it definitely could be integrated with virtually everything - i saw a comlete step-by-step guide of integrating with virtuemart. It is opensource and free and have large community. Dolibarr and openERP are notning but toys with bogus functionality in free version.

@mak said in Product Bundle feature like Magento: It seems more fitting to compare SUN Microsystems and PrestaShop. That seems to be closer to the route they took before they went downhill. To bark on the dead lion isn't a worthy business. But PS isn't dead, and have enough power yet, although even being in trouble, IMHO As for remain - i won't even try to discuss something. I just tried to express my opinion, that TB have all needed to implement very similar mechanics. So, if you want to have a pure magento clone - it's your choise. Just a small note on 'progress' - recent history shows, that really progressive products won't survive on the market. Rather, only optimal in terms of costs and minimal usefulness survives. Just remember the stories of Motorola, IBM, Fujitsu, Sony, et c.

Folks, your wishes of highly-dynamic-product-bundle-consists-of-dozens-of-items seems to me like a wish to organize an extra shopping cart inside the eshop. Perhaps, i have not much of life experience, but i try not to forget the KISS principle. I remember the horror of SUN Microsystems' system configurator - it had tons of options affecting the price and other options, it was sooooo slooooow and extremely unstable. The result is - 'So long, Sun!' There's another HUGE issue specific to computer and/or electronics area: compatibility. If you give your customer a freedom to select some options, then you have to check it compatibility in some way. Then, bearing in mind said above, as it seems to me, the usefullness of such functionality like a 'bundles' is vely low, speaking in terms of MONEY OUTCOME, while the price of such functionality is quite high. Just take a look to the market leaders: they offer a lot of limited, fixed(almost) variations, which are the source of most sales. And something 'custom' is sold different way. So, as it seems to me it is possible to get good sales/cross-sales similar to Magento's 'bundles' thru not only combinations, but also with product packs combined with 'related products'.

As it seems to me, there's not much need of magento-like functionality. This is more marketing question: - carry out ABC-analysis and derive or rank most profitable combinations - just generate appropriate combinations, and that's all! Another plus (as it seems to me) of 'fixed', non-dynamic combinations is it's better SEO/search indexation.

As it seems to me a drawback of such bundle functionality in magento is its slowness. As far as i know, in the PS/TB family it is possible to make similar things not only with combinations mentioned above, but also with a product packs.

In Russia there's payable 1S which has CRM/stock/bookkeeping management features and has some 3-part modules for it integration with PS 1.6x Is supports international standards and at least MRP II spec. This is more than enough upto big-size enterprize.

I said about changes made by modules in a database. Disabling modules/overrides won't revert database changes made by it.

If a module changed a table (any) in a database, what will give you disabling it? It won't revert table alters, but could lead to migration errors due to table structure mismatch.

@hubbobubbo If you have a DS of VPS with enough resources, you can easily organize new parallel installation of ecommerce as a sandbox, and aftrewards just move it to production if all updates/migrations/tests are pass. No risk, imho

IMHO, this is a 'birthmark' of PS: there're a ton of parameters affecting migration process. It could be caused by external modules, or even PHP version dependency, et c. The best migration way (IMHO) is following: 1. Install fresh and clean TB 2. Migrate the products and combinations/features/attribiutes manually, thru SQL manager, like phpMyAdmin or HeidiSQL. Here's possible issue, because some modules alters tables, adding extra fields, so you have to match all necessary info carefully by hands. 3. Then add necessary modules one-by-one Also i've figured out one observation: As PS as also TB is better to install and maintain on dedicated server, so you become independent on hosting provider's will and have a freedom to configure your server as you wish.

Here's an article related to SSL cert checks: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/test-ssl-certificates-diagnosis-ssl-certificate/ Or try $wget https://github.com/thirtybees/thirtybees/releases/download/1.0.3/thirtybees-v1.0.3.zip on the webserver' shell @fathira said in Installation in Spanish is stopped in 75%: server thirtybees connectivity see attachment Sorry it was my mistake - i've thought, that updates are pulled from thirtybees.com, not github

So, if you have an access to the shell, then you can look into logfiles of webserver. It definitely contains error messages related to updater.

So, @mdekker shown up the most probably reason of that. It is obvious, that you webserver doen't have the access to TB update server anymore. The first task you have to do is to find out the source of that blocking.

As far as i uderstood you have an issue appeared in the updater module - it shows you "not available" error? Or which issue we discuss now?

@mdekker Sorry, it seems i misunderstood you

@mdekker already said in the parallel topic, that backup feature builtin the updater module is non-functional, and should not be used

You mean, that software is used on your webserver? If so, then it could be a source of an issue.

No, i mean you have to activate a cPanel module which allow you ssh access to your web server's environment. When you tune this properly, then you can fire that commands in the command line of your web server