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Does anyone have experience of running hosted ecommerce or know what goes wrong? I have none; I don't think I'm the best person to do it.

"Either you have good programmers or you have good salespeople" if anyone starts hosted Thirtybees as a rival to Shopify Weebly etc. and if that person mentions this host-yourself version of Thirtybees with one-click install that we use (like Wordpress.com mentioning Wordpress.org) then the code becomes better known, including being better known to shopkeepers willing to pay money who want to migrate from the hosted version and tweak their own code. I'm not sure if I have put this in the best way. I seem to have started writing like an AI search result! I mean that a lot of people nowadays choose hosted software by default. It's quick and easy, if template suits. This is very different to how things were when I started doing ecommerce. It saves having to be the responsible person if something goes wrong. It's $x a month which is not much if you make $1000x a month. If someone fancies making a living by promoting a hosted version of Thirtybees, and if they mention this free version that we all use, with one-click install on a lot of servers, then a few shopkeepers might start on that hosted version but move to the free host-yourself version and be willing to pay for software development.

About hacks: anything that works in backoffice > preferences > custom code ...is good About modules: The JBW module that I bought in 2020 and is mentioned above still works fine, although I don't see it actively advertised for sale any more. It used to be for sale on another site for a similar shopping cart's version 1.6 and there are probably others similar. About customizations: Core code could solve some peoples' similar problems soon but I haven't followed the "Packs with Combinations" thread -linked below - to find out if it will or not. For me the problem was a two-part product. One part was a belt buckle, and needed stock control. Another was a belt strap in multiple lengths, which would add vast imaginary stock if I used stock control while in reality I just make belt straps to size. I used "customization" as a work-around way of adding a custom belt strap length to the buckle. It looks as though the idea of a "pack" product with combinations covers the same kind of problem, I guess without using a button at the bottom of the order page that customers miss like the default customization option.

1. Info for potential users I did an AI search about Thirtybees. The result quoted review sites on which there are very few Thirtybees reviews, and suggested that fewer reviews was a bad sign. Anyone reading this will have lots of opinions which would help readers of review sites and I found that it didn't take long to write one. I only wrote one. Hope others feel like doing the same, do an AI search, and find a review site to help people with an honest opinion. 2. Modules Rough AI modules are free. As ever, advice to people with more money than time is something worth paying for, but if you have time without money and can tolerate something rough, AI can try to write a module. I can't find the link I posted to my module that tries to make a pdf of products to print on something like Epson Ecotank and give you a catalog of products. Anyway the link was just to a set of prompts; you would want to see them and come-up with better prompts rather than downloading my rough module. A year or two ago, a forum user called Haylau posted https://web.archive.org/web/20220718212000/http://blog.haylau-4-thirtybees.co.uk/ which includes some links to harder-to-find and forgotten modules or themes for Prestashop 1.6 that work on Thirtybees. Like the AI-generated modules, some of them are rough but might do the job.

I guess there was a lot more competition in the hosted ecommerce market after a well known DIY website builder decided to launch an ecommerce version about 2023. Maybe a lot of Prestashop's hosted customers looked-around and saw something better. Maybe the other providers were sending them special offers? Thinking of which, I don't know of any hosted version of Thirtybees under any brand at all. Maybe that's a business for someone. If so I hope they promote other applications of this software and don't know if there is a way to encourage them to do it.

New Free Module: Remove Shop Name in Meta Title - the link is to a Chatgpt page https://chatgpt.com/share/683999c5-e6d4-8003-a150-5d00e8ca6c4b ... which has a Zip file to download at the bottom. Tested very briefly on Thirtybees 1.6 using PHP 8 with no deathplunge drama yet.

I could use Prestoolsuite until recently but now get - white screen - same if I press control+u for the code - same if I install the module to refer me from back office - same if I type likely fileneames used in the past into the browser. Recently I was prompted to enter the domain from which I search (or something like that) into the program and did not, so maybe that's the problem. Is there something I should do? I have tried reading the instructions but not found the right bit. kind regards John

Hosting.co.uk - no longer do a forever cheap deal; it's just cheap for a year. They take two or three seconds to load my thirtybees site which is a bit too long. According to their site, hosting is done somewhere on the midlands. They use another firm called Stablehost to do some invoicing and customer support. Stablehost.com - have a cheap forever deal if you sign up under their domain and brand. The table of features has a blank under "mysql connections", though, so it might not work. I meant to try it but only know what's on their site. They re-sell space from a larger company with "Phoenix, Chicago and Amsterdam Datacenters".

I had the same problem and found a solution. back office > advanced > Disable non thirty bees modules was turned-on after a previous problem

customers > addresses > required fields I didn't know this option existed! Trying "select all" first might be required before choosing required fields. Maybe it helps to make fields required and then not required to make sure defaults are cleared. advanced parameters > performance > clear cache might help. You could clear the cache on cloudflare as well if you use it, or there is a module to combine both. You could experiment on a test site with the localization options localization > countries > select all localization > tax remove fields with css You can make a lot of the site not show by putting css into backoffice>preferences>custom code>css such as #phone {display: none;} Some fields are easier to remove this way than others; it depends how specific the css code is. It applies to all countries. The link is to a longer post about a one page checkout. It does not answer your question about a validation error, but it does give examples of how to make fields not show. About changing validation on the server: I don't know how You can see the kind of files you'd have to change here for the forms themselves: https://github.com/thirtybees/niara/tree/01412c66f124f0040214cf44371cea306fe326b1 This is a post about phone number validation which gives an idea of other files and changes you'd need to make You can edit files on a test site on your server from cpanel > file manager, or there is a free module from a site called DH42 that lets you edit them from the back office: https://dh42.com/prestashop-modules/prestashop-editor-module/ Sorry I don't really know the answer to that bit of the question. https://store.getdatakick.com/en/modules/chex-one-page-checkout is a paid-for checkout module from the person who maintains Thirtybees so it ought to be reliable.

The problem could be the css worked for me, without the middle semicolon. I experimented on a test site > backoffice > preferences > custom code > CSS so that could have been the reason as well. Maybe the custom code CSS is applied last. I didn't know about the autoload directory, which sounds neat.

Backoffice > Localisation > Translations > Front Office > Translations & Niara or whatever theme & English or Spanish > Modify Press "Expand all Fieldsets" If this was an unusual phrase, you could use Control+F to find it, but about 14 pages have it so you have to find something unusual on the same page to identify it. You could check how you set-up your order form and maybe guess from the names of the pages as well. If you can identify the page, change the translation from "Required Field" or "Campo Requirido" to "*" or "." Then try Backoffice > Advanced Preferences > Performance > Clear Cache. (There is a module that makes this work for Cloudflare as well I think) Check whether your change has worked, as it might be hard to find the exact page to change. Lastly, you have the problem of required fields that the customers do not know about. You could ask again on the forum! Changed translations should survive updates of the software. Hope this helps John PS if the text has unusual css round it, you can alter the css in backoffice > preferences > custom code > add css to your pages ... and add css to stop this unusual css showing. Probably not possible in this instance.

Veganline.com - vegan belts and shoes in the UK https://veganline.com Also, https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/thirty-bees sometimes has a list of Thirty bees web sits but I think the free version is limited somehow

https://web.archive.org/web/20220718212000/https://blog.haylau-4-thirtybees.co.uk/ is a reminder of Haylou's list of modules, which he researched after a job ended and a "walk in the rain" and while thinking what do do next. Sadly the detail pages are not preserved, but the names of themes and modules are on his blog. Sometimes more detail loads very slowly from the archive servers. I hope his retirement - or whatever comes next - goes well.

Ease of Work / None of these I think that synchronisation with ebay amazon etc etc etc is the most important issue. For shops like mine, a cheap solution is important too. There used to be a program called Store Manager that could sync with Prestashop 1.6 and had its own module that could sync with Ebay, maybe, for some people. For me, the free help support ran-out before I could get it going but other people may have done better. I left the program installed but not working. More recently I've had a Stripe bug which says "your order could not be verified" to each customer after each order, so it is a major bug. It stopped when I turned-off a module called "Bridge Connector" that was meant to connect Prestashop 1.6 to Store Manager and from there to Ebay, so I think the system kaput. There is also a message on their web site which I can't read because it dissapears too fast but could be a notice that they're giving-up on Prestashop 1.6 to concentrate on Shopify or whatever. To summerise, I think that ecommerce is nowadays about syncing ebay amazon etc etc etc as well as having en e-commerce site.