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Many thanks. That's what's happened. Order restored ;-))))

There is a bug in thirty bees or the core updater that not every time the update runs define('_TB_BUILD_PHP_', '8.1'); in settings.inc.php is updated. It is not critical and you can manually edit this if you're sure the update propagated and your shop is running OK. This isssue was spotted a while back and @datakick advised that it can be fixed that way but nobody tracked down the issue so it's still present for some users in some scenarios.

Just to clarify - my live store is on PHP 8.3 and TB 1.6.0 and appears to be working. what I don't understand is why Advanced Parameters/Configuration Information reports Build for PHP version: 8.1 Your server is running on PHP version 8.3.25. You should use core updater and fix your installation HOWEVER running Core Updater doesn't do anything but says "Your system is up to date! No further actions are required" ?

I did try the update on my test installation which ran OK. Advanced Parameters/Configuration Information report below. I'm not sure about "Install the 'yaml' PHP extension on your server " as its a shared server so PHP managed by the ISP. CONFIGURATION INFORMATION This information must be provided when you report an issue on github or forum. SERVER INFORMATION Server information Linux #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Server software version Apache PHP version 8.3.25 Memory limit 128M Max execution time 120 DATABASE INFORMATION MySQL version 5.6.51-log MySQL server IP MySQL name TB NAME MySQL user TB USER Tables prefix prefix_ MySQL engine InnoDB MySQL driver PDO STORE INFORMATION Thirty bees version: 1.7.0 Thirty bees revision: f1c64a1600692325f6ff2621edb590519bf7c2ca Build for PHP version: 8.3 Shop URL DOMAIN Shop Root Directory: ************************ Current theme in use community-theme-default YOUR INFORMATION Your web browser Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/143.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 CHECK YOUR CONFIGURATION Some required tests failed Install the 'yaml' PHP extension on your server

Currently edge has no pressing bugs (in fact it has quite lot of work done since 1.6 in terms of bugs and small new features). If you have a test installation I would strongly recommend updating there to 1.7, see if it's working with php 8.3 (it should work but third party themes and modules might have a problem) and then update your production after you've made a working backup of it (files structure and db). I use edge on my production and I can't remember when was the last newly introduced but I noticed in my daily work. But thirty bees 1.6 would also work on php 8.3 (with few more deprecation warnings which should not be conserning) so if you only want to make your install work on php 8.3 I would recommend to play with only one variable - update your current store and make it working robustly on 8.3 and only then update it to edge if you see any reason.

Hi, just a small notice: perhaps you'd like to set up a test shop on a cost-effective hosting provider (a 1:1 copy of your shop). This way you can easily test any changes and modules. There are already suitable hosting packages available for as little as 3-4 dollarini per month. I'd like to recommend www.serverprofis.de, which offers excellent performance.

Is it OK to switch to 1.7 to test this and then revert to 1.6? Or Should I stay on 1.7? It's just that I'm doing it on the live shop. If 1.7 is nearly live then I'm OK staying on it.

Could you try and follow this procedure and tell us if it makes any change. At this very moment if you're updating to version 1.6, the same version should be in your BO. If you update to edge channel your BO should show 1.7 (which is currently not released as final version). When you switch between php versions you update only dependencies, the core is not updated.

Hey, Since SendInBlue no longer supports PrestaShop 1.6, you could consider using GetResponse, MailerLite or Klaviyo, which have PrestaShop modules for newsletters and automation. Other platforms like Mailchimp, Omnisend and ActiveCampaign can also work if connected through integration tool such as Make or Pabbly.

Glad it worked. I'd suggest to move you shop asap. Hostings who force you are no good.

As my ISP moves PHP along I occasionally have to update Thirty Bees to stay in step My order of play was Log into BackOffice Move site to PHP 8.3 on my Control Panel Run Core Updater [ 1.6.12 ] Set target to PHP 8.3 Run Core Updater/Check Updates followed by Update Site Then in BackOffice looked at Advanced Parameters/Configuration Information which reported Thirty bees revision: 1.6.0 Build for PHP version: 8.1 Your server is running on PHP version 8.3.25. You should use core updater and fix your installation BUT now running Core Updater says Core Updater/Check Updates => Your System is up to date! Your system is up to date! You are already using latest stable version 1.6.0. No further actions are required. So did anything happen? Shop seems to be working OK. Why the mismatch between Core Updater and Advanced Parameters/Configuration Information?

Can you zip and send the module to me Vincent? Mine is V3.5.5 and though mine seems to work I like to have the latest possible version. And I want to upgrade to php8

@musicmaster I don't know where I found the module. It's possible I got I directly from mollie support. I using TB 1.6.0 on php 8 I can't remember I said I wanted another solution. However, I do wonder if the module will still work once the switch from iDeal to Wero becomes complete

Hey, I would say you are on the right track by adding meta titles and description, but they alone wont help you move higher. To improve your ranking, focus on making your product pages more helpful for real users. Add clear product details, benefits and answer to common question. Make sure your site loads fast and works smoothly on mobile. It also helps to links to your product pages from other relevant pages on your websites. Getting a few genuine link from related or trusted websites can boost visibility too. Lstly, good images, customers review and easy navigation will create a better experience with Google values. And if you keep improving your pages and give it some time, your ranking can gradually improve and reach the first page.

Please read. Many people only use the CAPTCHA for the contact form, not for the entire shop (why would they??). We also have one, but ONLY for the form, not for the shopping cart, etc., and there are no problems. Anyone who needs to use other Cloudflare services (e.g., load balancing) is unlikely to be on this forum and using ThirtyBees (even though it would be nice). And yes, we know exactly what it's like for users. Firstly, we're all internet users ourselves, and secondly, we test all the functions of our shop with different device views.

Sure as a shop owner you seem to forget the penance users have to go thru. Compare drop out rates with Cloudflare vs without, Everything what for you is easy is more difficult for others, How can you disagree if I have to go thru a procedere to get to see a site with cloudflare?

I disagree with Cloudflare here; purely for the captcha, for example in the contact form, the speed via Cloudflare is not a problem, you don't notice any problematic delay.

To avoid phishing: have a low cost laptop handle only your emails. No other connection to shops, banks should be on the laptop. Use another laptop where you don't enter emails. It is best to use a Linux distro to access your shops, banks and all other financial tools. Cloudflare delays visitors, so there is no sense to make your shop fast and set cloudflare, just to let clients solve riddles.

we are using Turnstile and it is highly recommended by us (you have to register at Cloudflare, but this is quickly done and ok), >> and have a look at Blackhole for Bad Bots - thirty bees store also, this is very useful too !!

Personally, I think Turnstile is MUCH better than Google reCaptcha. It's also worth considering changing your anti-spam security.

The module in github from above is for thirty bees and it works flawlessly.

I did have the No Captcha reCAPTCHA Module installed BUT not activated for Registration - so I've now done that. Many thanks. What's your take on Cloudflare+Turnstile ? Do You think Turnstile will appear in Thirty Bees in the future?

Not all stores use google accounts. 🙂 Turnstile is separate service from Cloudflare. There is no need for your store to be behind it to use Turnstile. Yes, account with them is needed but I advised for this module as it offers smoother flow for the real customers imho.

Not all stores use Clodflare. The module from the thirtybees repository “nocaptcharecaptcha” also secures the customer registration form.

https://github.com/eschiendorfer/genzo_turnstile Do you have this module for turnstile in FO? If not, I highly recommend installing it and checking if the bots will stop.