Creation of WikiPedia Entry for thirty bees

[dprophitjr]

I'm in the process of creating thirty bees official entry on WIkiPedia and wanted to get the communities assistance and feedback. The link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Inetbiz/thirty_bees and isn't ready for publishing, yet.

[yaniv14]

The official link in the bottom is wrong. thirty.com instead of thirtybees.com

[MockoB]

I just learned that thirty bees comes with two themes :)

[dprophitjr]

@yaniv14 wow thanks for spotting that! Updated.

[DavidP]

This page no longer exists and the user inetbiz has been marked for deletion for violation of wikipedia rules. I noticed he changed the PrestaShop page on 28th November from Free to Freemium.

It might be worth getting that page updated.

[Tomik]

H@H@ thats a good one tho

[dprophitjr]

@davidp Where does it state that my user is marked for deletion? The page was removed that I had tried to create.

[DavidP]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Inetbiz it's on the bottom about Tag placed on user:Inetbiz requesting that it be marked for speedy deletion.

[dprophitjr]

@davidp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Inetbiz used to be. I removed the content that was in violation and am good now.

[DavidP]

@dprophitjr ah OK. I only picked up on it when I was looking at the PrestaShop page in relation to one of their recent blog posts that generated a bit of flaming and someone linked to the PrestaShop wiki with regards to Freemium

[dprophitjr]

@davidp That was two years ago if you notice? One day I'll go back and fill out my profile in a way that doesn't trigger them.

[dprophitjr]

@mdekker The change to the word, "Freemium" has stuck. Unless an authoritarian type personality changes it back! lol

[lesley]

@DavidP That blog post also triggered this, https://forum.thirtybees.com/topic/1170/disparaging-competitors-and-harassing-them We cannot have our community harassing other communities. It is not acceptable.

[dprophitjr]

@lesley Not sure I follow? A wikipedia entry or other?

[wakabayashi]

@dprophitjr very nice to see you back here. I have no idea about wikipedia, but all I hear is similair to what @mdekker says...

[DavidP]

@mdekker I don't understand any of that text lol. I agree it's VERY hard to get anything changed on there but you can and some of it does stick. I see approx 500-1000 hits from Wiki to one of my sites a month, which is why I still see benefit in it.

@lesley I wonder if it was that guy who had his posts deleted.

[lesley]

The comments on the blog that @DavidP were talking about is what I am referring to. It looks poorly on our community and won't be tolerated for people to go to another blog and try to cause issues.

[Traumflug]

Agreed, Wikipedia has its own mindset. A mindset which isn't always obvious to mere humans. I'm occasionally participating there and as such, gained a few privileges. Not much, but something. And I also engaged in a couple of deletion battles, which gives a lot of insight into how these Wikipedians think and act. On top of that, distinct language wikis also come with somewhat distinct mindsets.

In German Wikipedia it's perfectly fine to have unfinished pages in user space, as long as it doesn't stretch the ruleset too much (e.g. by being straight advertising or a pure link collection or a copyright violation).

As @DavidP says, having a WP page has quite some benefits. Wikipedia kind of defines what's relevant and also what's true these days. About everybody looks there, first.

A few keys for success:

• The stated ruleset for page content is extremely important there, no exceptions.
• Look at what deleters say. They always give a reason. If not, it's a ruleset violation which can be challenged.
• Put some love into it. A few quickly jotted down sentences is the last thing Wikipedians want to see. They love their Wikipedia, so they want to see this love respected, e.g. with carefully crafted sentences.
• Wikipedians are very well aware that a whole lot of people create pages not to make Wikipedia a better place, but to boost them selfs or to advertise their shit. They hate it and act accordingly.

That said, I can't find this page in the deletion logs. User Inetbiz was created in 2010, its user page deleted in 2015 for advertising. Sub-page thirty_bees exists, but has a one-edit history only. Wikipedia never forgets, so where is this page?

User pages are fine for drafting and development, but they don't show up in search engines. To get an article into the regular space, its subject has to be notable. What that means? See the ruleset: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability(software) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Softwarenotability