Nginx

[lesley]

I don't know if many people saw, but yesterday nginx was taken over by the russian government. That kind of leaves everything with their software in limbo now. https://www.zdnet.com/article/russian-police-raid-nginx-moscow-office/

[Traumflug]

It's Open Source. They can arrest developers, but not the code.

For details on the raid, see https://www.zdnet.com/article/russian-police-raid-nginx-moscow-office/

[lesley]

From what I read they are going to claim that the original OS license is not valid because a developer cannot license code that they do not own. So then they will start launching lawsuits against people using the code. That was the hot take I read on it. 

[musicmaster]

It could be just some local prosecutor who took the initiative. And he may well have been bribed to do so.

Most likely we will first see some judicial fights inside Russia - with a lot more people getting involved. 

If that goes against Nginx the next step will be international. But we still don't know what Rambler wants. Do they really plan to go after the end users or are they just hoping to get some money from Nginx Inc?

[Kashir2000]

This can happen only in Russia. I like the part that they own the code, cause he wrote it in his free time, while he was working... It's carazy 🙂 Rumbler must've paid lots of money to someone 🙂

[datakick]

1 hour ago, Kashir2000 said:

This can happen only in Russia. I like the part that they own the code, cause he wrote it in his free time, while he was working... It's carazy 🙂 Rumbler must've paid lots of money to someone 🙂

Oh, it can happen anywhere.

It really depends on employment contract. They usually contain clause like

The Employee hereby assigns to the Company all rights, including, without limitation, copyrights, patents, trade secret rights, and other intellectual property rights associated with any ideas, concepts, techniques, inventions, processes, works of authorship, Confidential Information or trade secrets

1. developed or created by the Employee during the course of performing work for or on behalf of the Company
2. that the Employee conceives, develops, discovers or makes in whole or in part during or after the Employee’s employment by the Company that are made through the use of any of the equipment, facilities, supplies, trade secrets or time of the Company
3. that the Employee develops, discovers or makes in whole or in part during the Employee’s employment by the Company that relate to the business of the Company, or the research, or development of the Company 

Which means that if he wrote even a single line *during* work hours (when he was being paid) the company owns the code. Even if he was on home office. If he used company issued computer for nginx development, then the company owns the code. Or if the company core business is related the the code developed (for example if they offer their own server software) they have valid claim as well.

Ultimately it is up to the court to decide. 

[DRMasterChief]

On 12/13/2019 at 4:03 PM, datakick said:

.....Ultimately it is up to the court to decide. 

You are kidding  🙂 ...in Russia, really - up to the court ?? 🙂

Will hope the best for the person and project !

[led24ee]

12 hours ago, DRMasterChief said:

You are kidding  🙂 ...in Russia, really - up to the court ?? 🙂

Will hope the best for the person and project !

Well. Looks like at least someone has experience with real life.