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It's a very interesting discussion here. I can understand both positions. It's really a chicken-egg game.

But imo there is a huge game changer: AI.Β 

It has become way more simple and fast to write code. I am also not aware of the plans/roadmap of TB. But with the new AI tools, it's even possible for no coders to start modifying some stuff. Ofc it's always better, if you have some basic coding knowledge, otherwise you might mess things up. Even if you aren't brave enough to use AI yourself: I would guess, that prices for a custom module will come down a lot.

@datakick what is your experience with AI these days? I would say it has speed up my developing work about 3-5 times. It's hard to tell, but it's for sure huge. The first time I have the feeling, that my todo-list may become shorter 🫣

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On 2/21/2026 at 11:34 PM, wakabayashi said:

But imo there is a huge game changer: AI.Β 

Agree. But not just for development.

I think it will also change shop systems. It might be that systems like Shopify will benefit more than standalone systems because of their data advantage.Β Β 

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9 hours ago, 30knees said:

Agree. But not just for development.

Why not ?
I'm not a developer. I just completed a giftcard module completely ai generated (claude sonnet 4.6).
I'm still testing it, but as far as I can the functionality I wanted works. (including correct VAT calculation)

How the module works: Β 
- Create a set number of gift card numbers. Β 
- Export the numbers to a CSV file for printing the gift cards. Β 
- Create a regular product (gift card) with 0% VAT. Β 
- Customer buys the product. Β 
- Link a gift card to the order. Β 
- Email the customer the PIN code. Β 
- Once the customer receives the physical gift card, they activate it with the PIN code on a special page. Β 
- After activation, the card can be used as a payment method.


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GiftCardPayment β€” ThirtyBees Module

Version:Β 1.0.0
Author:Β denkspellenparadijs [with assistance from Claude Sonnet 4.6]
License:Β MIT
Compatibility:Β ThirtyBees 1.6.x | PHP 8.0+


πŸ“‹ Description

TheΒ GiftCardPaymentΒ module adds a complete gift card system to ThirtyBees webshops. Customers can use physical gift cards (with unique code and PIN) as a payment method β€” either fully or partially.

In case of a partial payment, the remaining amount is automatically charged via the configured payment provider (Mollie or bank transfer).


✨ Features

  • 🎁 Physical gift cardsΒ with unique codes and PIN protection
  • πŸ’³Β Two-step payment flow:Β gift card + remaining amount via PSP
  • πŸ”ŒΒ PSP-agnostic:Β works with Mollie and bank transfer (extendable with custom adapter)
  • 🧾 VAT-correctΒ handling for partial gift card payments
  • 🏭 Bulk generationΒ of gift cards via admin
  • πŸ’°Β Balance checkΒ via frontend widget
  • πŸ”—Β Activation via emailΒ β€” customer activates card via personal activation link
  • πŸ”’Β BlockingΒ after too many failed PIN attempts
  • πŸ“ŠΒ Full transaction historyΒ per gift card

πŸ”’ Security

  • PIN codes are stored as plaintext and as BCrypt hash (for validation)
  • CSRF token validation on all AJAX endpoints
  • Rate limiting on PIN attempts
  • Cryptographically secureΒ secure_keyΒ generation viaΒ random_bytes(32)

πŸ“¦ Installation

SeeΒ INSTALLATION.mdΒ for full installation instructions.

Quick install:Β 1. UploadΒ giftcardpayment_v1.0.0.zipΒ via Modules β†’ Upload a Module 2. Install the module 3. Clear the cache


βš™οΈ Configuration

After installation: 1. Go toΒ Modules β†’ GiftCardPayment β†’ ConfigureΒ 2. Set the payment provider (Mollie, Bank Transfer, etc.) 3. Set the validity period (default: 24 months) 4. Set the maximum number of failed PIN attempts (default: 3)


πŸ“ Structure

giftcardpayment/
β”œβ”€β”€ classes/                    # Core classes
β”‚   β”œβ”€β”€ GiftCard.php
β”‚   β”œβ”€β”€ GiftCardTransaction.php
β”‚   β”œβ”€β”€ GiftCardCart.php
β”‚   β”œβ”€β”€ GiftCardOrder.php
β”‚   β”œβ”€β”€ GiftCardPartialPayment.php
β”‚   └── providers/              # PSP adapters
β”‚       β”œβ”€β”€ MolliePaymentProvider.php
β”‚       └── BankWirePaymentProvider.php
β”œβ”€β”€ controllers/
β”‚   β”œβ”€β”€ admin/                  # Admin controllers
β”‚   └── front/                  # Frontend controllers
β”œβ”€β”€ sql/                        # Database scripts
β”œβ”€β”€ views/                      # Templates
β”œβ”€β”€ translations/               # Translations
β”œβ”€β”€ giftcardpayment.php         # Main module file
β”œβ”€β”€ config.xml
β”œβ”€β”€ CHANGELOG.md
└── INSTALLATIE.md

πŸ“ Changelog

SeeΒ CHANGELOG.mdΒ for the full version history.


πŸ“„ License

MIT License β€” free to use, modify and distribute with attribution.


Developed by denkspellenparadijs with assistance from Claude Sonnet 4.6 (Abacus.AI / ChatLLM Teams)

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Posted (edited)

@vincentdenkspel amazing! 😏 Don't forget: be careful. I would always recommend to work with testshops at least. Also try to learn some basics (in case you don't know anything right now). But in general this so cool. Keep going!

@30kneesΒ This was my first guess too. But we might be wrong. It could actually be, that thirty bees is a winner of this. We have an open architecture here. It's accessible for all AI tools. And the system itself was built for extensions/moduls.

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1 minute ago, wakabayashi said:

Β Don't forget: be careful.

I will. It is only on a test site.Β 
What I did: I uploaded the all Thirtybees 1.6.0 files in AI and had it analyse all the files. Based on the analysis I made AI create a 'Thirtybees module development guide'
Whit this guide and my input I had ai create the module.

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1 hour ago, vincentdenkspel said:

I will. It is only on a test site.Β 
What I did: I uploaded the all Thirtybees 1.6.0 files in AI and had it analyse all the files. Based on the analysis I made AI create a 'Thirtybees module development guide'
Whit this guide and my input I had ai create the module.

Its completly sick, what you already achieved without writting code your ownΒ πŸ˜…

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8 minutes ago, wakabayashi said:

Its completly sick, what you already achieved without writting code your ownΒ πŸ˜…

I also created other modules.
I use a dutch version of 'trustpilot' (keurmerk.info)
The module I created with ai is twofold:
1) after the status of on order becomes 'delivered' the module will send a 'message' to keurmerk.info.
Keurmerk.info will than send a review request to the customer. I the module I can set how much days after status 'delivered' the info is send to keurmerk.info.
2) the second part of the module is that I will display the last 5 reviews on my site in a slider.

The third module I have created is a bulk-list-picker.
With this module I select orders and the module will create a list of the stock locations of the ordered product.
I can select 'per order' or 'bulk'
This module has a bug in it, but I hope to sort this out very soon.
Β 

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consolidated_picking_list_20260223_123059.pdf

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2 hours ago, DRMasterChief said:

Some kind of OT, but which pricing model do you use?

I use abacus.ai. Although I like it, it although it has some disadvantage: you buy credits, but do not know how much credit a 'instruction' will cost.
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OK, let stick to topic here and I will split it later tonight.\

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EDIT - better late than ever...Β 

Let's discuss community modules and core additions made with AI here. Vibe coders - unite!

My entries:

  • antifraud module - sits in BO Orders and displays account info (number of orders, account age), device info (ip, location (based on external database), device, osint tools (sometimes it's usefull to check the customer email, phone in google if some order smells fishy - if they are present - most probably the order is OK). Also - 'soft ban' function - If I want to ban some customers and not fulfill their orders I can ban the account, the module tries to search for similar later registrations and notify me if it detects similar fingerprints. Also global account note - if I want to say something for later orders in this account it can be saved here.
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  • control center - offers a dragNdrop dashboard for merchants that want to see the high-level information - order by status, order profit by period, other KPIs, template export/import, etc My vision is when I 'become big' I will have this in my office on an LCD on the wall and only drink myΒ Caipirinhas while looking at the numbers.... πŸ™‚
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  • dual currency display for our EUR adoption - similar to Croatia we have to display prices in both currencies for a period - in FO and emails, not a complete solution but works.
  • Dynamic llms.txt per shop - set up a dynamic llms.txt file per shop in multistore
  • IndexNow Integration - update search providers that support it.
  • thirty bees File Integrity - most recent and still unfinished - goes through each file on the root and tracks edits, deletions, or new files. Using SQLlite it gives a quick note on what is changed on the server in all folders - useful to find malicious files on the server if they are placed, let's say in img where they are extremely hard to find manually
  • Dynamic Robots - serves a dynamic robots.txt file in a multistore environment.Β 


    And of course many attempts on core changes - visible in github.

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