mautic instead of mailchimp

[nickon]

I am playing around with mautic (www.mautic.org) ATM and I must say that I am amazed. It realy takes email marketing to an other level. IMO this must be intergrated with tb. An ps module already exists but seems to be broken. More when I am actually start using it on my website

[nickon]

https://github.com/kuzmany/mautic-prestashop

I've installed it and works only partial. It correctly detect the users (by inserting a pixel), it tracks the user's activity eg what pages they visit but fails to indentify them when they submit an email or create an order

[nickon]

it could even detect the abandoned carts and based on that send emails to the customers. The code is there.

[nickon]

yes.

[rubben1985]

Could someone of the actual team inform if mautic is on the roadmap? It seems a quite amazing platform.

[wakabayashi]

Lol I just wanted check it and get an 500 Internal Server Error.

Edit: Already woriking again :)

[wakabayashi]

They don't show any prices? Normally that means it's really expensive...

[rubben1985]

I should update my information but as I remember it was free until 5000 leads

[wakabayashi]

But what mean leads? Probably a page view is already a lead...

[lesley]

Its free OSS.

Its not currently on the roadmap, I would need to look into it more in depth.

[rubben1985]

@wakabayashi said in mautic instead of mailchimp:

But what mean leads? Probably a page view is already a lead...

with leads I mean contacts (mailchimps has 2K, mautic has 5K but the thing is the automation processes)

[wakabayashi]

Ah yep sorry! Saw now too, that it's open source. Dang mautic.com is completly different to mautic.org...

[wakabayashi]

I am watching videos about it now. It looks really interesting. Who else is interested in it?

[Chandra]

I use it with TB and the prestashop module works well for the integration.

[wakabayashi]

@Chandra thats amazing! Can you tell us more about it? Which is your site and how are you using it?

[lesley]

This looks interesting. I see there is a free module, but the developer never responded about us forking it. Is the free module actually missing anything?

[nickon]

@lesley . I managed to make it work after many trial and error. The module is not stable at all and the support is ... lacking.

[wakabayashi]

@nickon are you working now with mautic? What is your experience? I just installed it on my server. Don't know where and how to start :)

[lesley]

We really cannot fork it and try to fix it, it is not properly licensed, I inquired about it last year, https://github.com/kuzmany/mautic-prestashop/issues/3

[wakabayashi]

@lesley it seems to me, that this module is just a solid basement. If I don't miss something, this module is less than 1000 lines of code. I am seriously considering to use mautic for my site, because I was planning to develop an inbound marketing module. But mautic seems to be so powerful and it's open source... If I am going to use it, my module will hopefully be more powerful than kuzmanys.

But before you get too euphoric: If I release such a module. It probably won't be free.

[lesley]

Fork it and release it if you want. See, I try to play safe with thirty bees. There are some of the files in the repo that are licensed, there are other smaller ones that are not. If there is not a license covering the whole repo I do not let us fork / release it. Its safer for us to not get sued that way.

[nickon]

@wakabayashi I stopped using it about 6 months ago mainly to the gdpr. The learing curve that mautic has does not make it worth your while if you don't have a huge mailing list. To use it to monitor abandonet carts etc is overkill

[rubben1985]

@nickon but for inbound marketing seems really good, abandoned car is just a fraction of the ecommerce strategies. Would you have a more easy to use but also useful for ambitious projects alternative?

[nickon]

@rubben1985, for our website the time spend on mautic and the whole gdpr mess is not something i want to trouble me atm

[wakabayashi]

@rubben1985 said in mautic instead of mailchimp:

@nickon but for inbound marketing seems really good, abandoned car is just a fraction of the ecommerce strategies. Would you have a more easy to use but also useful for ambitious projects alternative?

@rubben1985 Have you looked seriously into mautic? How would you like to use it in theory? I have just spent a few hours to understand the system a bit. It seems to me, that all product pages and category pages should be imported as assets. Same is true for your content (blog, cms & so on).

But surely there is a lot more to do with tags & lists I guess.