What cache is the best and save to use ?

[cdwebman]

I am migrating a Prestashop to TB 1.08 , but i miss the module Page Cache (we used it at PS 1.6 ) , which isn't compatible with TB.

I want to use the option : "Server Side Caching" in TB but wonder which is the best one to choose to speed up the webshop.

There are the following options :

Memcache via PHP::Memcache (you must install the Memcache PECL extension)

Memcached via PHP::Memcached (you must install the Memcached PECL extension)

 

APC (you must install the APC PECL extension)

 

redis (you must install the redis extension)

 

I understand the server need to support that caching option, but i want to ask the server administrator

to install the needed extension.

 

I want to speed up the webshop for all visitors, so for guest, logged in users etc, but also for SEO,

but it must be save so that logged in customers not will see someones others shopping cart or anything like this !

 

 

 

[lesley]

This is a pretty comprehensive test of the different caches, https://thirtybees.com/blog/thirty-bees-caches-tested/ 

[datakick]

@cdwebman Are you planning to use thirtybees Full Page Cache? If not, then it really isn't important what Server Side Cache implementation you choose. It's because FPC is the only functionality in the core that is actually utilising SSC. Of course, there may be some third party modules that uses SSC as well, but I would bet you don't have such module installed.

[cdwebman]

AS i read on the forum from TB, it's not "save" to use the build in "Full Page Cache " ?

But i do want the speed back what we have before with the external module Page Cache which isn't compatible with TB...

 

As i now understand, whatever i use ( Memcache, APC or Redis ) doesn't do anything without using the FPC from TB ! ??

So i don't win any speed with SSC ?

 

> Of course, there may be some third party modules that uses SSC as well, but I would bet you don't have such module installed

Do you mean third party modules for TB, or whatever extension module for the server ?

If for TB : can youn tell me what is available ?

If for the server : we are planning to get the new shop running at a new VPS, so the administrator can install anything needed.

 

[datakick]

1 hour ago, cdwebman said:

AS i read on the forum from TB, it's not "save" to use the build in "Full Page Cache " ?

Right. FPC is fixed in upcoming version, but if you are on 1.0.8 it's not recommended to use.

1 hour ago, cdwebman said:

As i now understand, whatever i use ( Memcache, APC or Redis ) doesn't do anything without using the FPC from TB ! ??

So i don't win any speed with SSC ?

Correct. SSC is used only by FPC

1 hour ago, cdwebman said:

> Of course, there may be some third party modules that uses SSC as well, but I would bet you don't have such module installed

Do you mean third party modules for TB, or whatever extension module for the server ?

If for TB : can youn tell me what is available ?

What I meant is that the SSC api is public so any thirtybees/prestashop module can use it to cache its data. I don't know about any module that do this, though. Modules usually uses smarty cache, but that's different technology.

[cdwebman]

"Right. FPC is fixed in upcoming version, but if you are on 1.0.8 it's not recommended to use. "

I read on the TB forum that this FPC has very low priority, so will it be available in the 1.09 version,
or do we have to expect a longer waiting time ?

But the conclusion at this moment is, that i can't do anything to speed up the webshop more ?

While i have to admit that changing the PHP version to 7.1 did gain some loadtime ! :)

When the FPC is save to use, what option will be the best :

APC ( or will APCu also be an option for TB ? ) - Memcache or Redis

I like to know this now before ordering the VPS server :)

 

[Traumflug]

15 hours ago, cdwebman said:

I am migrating a Prestashop to TB 1.08 , but i miss the module Page Cache (we used it at PS 1.6 ) , which isn't compatible with TB.

In all shops using Page Cache I migrated to far, performance was considerably better than before, without this module and without turning on full page cache.

This is my current release test installation in Chromium, with just Smarty cache and CCC turned on on an old Core2Duo server for a full reload of a product page:

With a load time of just 0.35 seconds for the base document (that's where full page cache kicks in) it's hard to imagine this can get substantially better. Remaining load time is loading pictures, CSS, JS and processing that in the browser.

[cdwebman]

The load time is in my test version about the same, but the First Byte time is slower than on  the
Prestashop 1.06 with that Page Cache module.
That's why i wish a good Caching module, not only to improve the First Byte time, but also
to make the TB shop more quick than ever before ! ;-)

 

[haylau]

We use this module which seems to do a good job

Advanced page cache v1.0.0 - by ST-themes

 

[30knees]

Hi,

I'd like to pick up on this and ask what the recommended cache setting for the latest bleeding version are.

 SMARTY - APPLICATION CACHE

 

Template compilation

Never recompile template files

Recompile templates if the files have been updated

Force compilation

Cache

YESNO

Caching type

File System

MySQL

Clear cache

Never clear cache files

Clear cache everytime something has been modified

 

CCC (COMBINE, COMPRESS AND CACHE)

Smart cache for CSS

YESNO

Smart cache for JavaScript

YESNO

Compress inline JavaScript in HTML

YESNO

Move JavaScript to the end

YESNO

Apache optimization

YESNO

Keep JS and CSS files

YESNO

Keep old JS and CSS files on the server, to make sure e.g. Google's cache still renders correctly (improves SEO).

 

SERVER SIDE CACHING

Use cache

YESNO

 Add server

Save

FULL PAGE CACHE

Before enabling the full page cache, make sure you have chosen a caching system in the panel above.

Use full page cache

YESNO

Debug mode

YESNO

Ignore query parameters

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