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Hello thank you for the instructions. This I have done for years and more in my category pages but I to stop to modify my templates my own on file basis. Each big update or any other changes to my system force me to do file comparisson in order not to miss something I changed in the past. This can become many things. Latest is a file seldom touched by other for example >> \Core\Business\Payment\CoreBusinessPayment_PaymentOption.php <<. I used that one to split payment options description into to parts so I could modify payment options tpl in a nice and more compact way { private $callToActionText; private $callToActionText2; ... } Back to the changes or code movents you made: I use the Warehouse theme by IQUIT which allows this position of category description via UI. This should TB also implement. It's an easy option that user as you and me could benefit from. I also commented out the abbreviation/truncation of descriptive text so the whole category description is viewable. I think this is something that Goolge seowise might honor a tiny bit over truncating text. Who knows... What remains on the wishlist is the named option to split easily the category description. This is the important one in my eyes.

Thank you Yaniv, I know them all and used them in the past. I am also a long time buyer of HTMLboxPro (MyPresta) but never thought about to use them like this. I must admit I am still unsure about how to reach my goal with these html boxes I could hook to the bottom of cateogory list in an easy and acceptable way. But it better than nothing :) and I could start with my important categories (or not so important ones at the moment dependent on the seo strategy I want to follow).

I am totally with you and what you said I knew. That is the reason why I asked what the best way would be to split the category description since I already thought that a 2nd db entry would make sence or be necessary. Personally, I like the option to have a brief category introduction non abbreviated top of the product listing and to have the rest at the bottom of it. I am curious if an override/ module adding this 2nd database entry would do the trick. This entry could be a clone of the normal category descripton so any template could make use of it or anyone could just add the part to show this 2nd entry. Tpl allows to shorten strings so a module could even give us the option to skip the first x lines/chars before it shows the 2nd part right under product listing. PS: My problem is that I am no coder at all.

Sir Slick, I am also so very much thrilled - I can't tell you. Though I still have to import old reviews into Datakick's great review module I must thank you in advance for giving this great module to us. I am in ecommerce for 6 years and have literally lost hundreds if not thousands of euros to these services (I call them just members of the Vulture Club in ecoomerce) that charge so much for a "review system". All I was after was a way to send this "review" emails. I was a customer of Ekomi, Trusted Shops (big one in Germany) and Yotpo. I never felt happy with them. Now I see light again despite the fact that I am already a happy Thirty Bees user and am more than happy looking forward to have Review by Datakick running and your Send-Review-Request module. Additionally I know that my shop will not have to run any external calls via scripts like Yotpo etc. since these slowed my shop down very much. Thank you! /bow

I am looking for a way to split category description into a part positioned top of the product list and into a part at the bottom. Great would be if we could via GUI/backoffice settings determine how many chars or lines we want in each section/part. My intention is that there would be a nice way to get much more text into the "viewable" description but with the 'tick' that a short part is on top of the product list as usual and the "more" link jumps to the bottom part under the product list. Google should be happy and customers not bugged with too much text before the products they are looking for. I think this could be done via smal template changes. Perhaps a new field in the DB for bottom description is needed but I do not know and do not think so. in summary it would be great if this could be integrated into the community theme or into a means this could be used with other templates/themes, too.

I am interested to install from source. I downloaded and installed composer for windows. I use Xampp based on php 7.1 at the moment. I hope I will find out how to use composer. But I wonder what this vendor folder is about. I take it form the release 1.0.4_rc1. What I am most interested in at the moment for testing purposes is if I can make use of symbolic links. All my GIT projects are cloned via Sourcetree into a certain folder. All my Xampp project are in another one. So i thought well, GIT (in my case Sourcetree) keeps the Thirtybees project files up to date and all I have to do is to make a symbolic folder link. The git folder as source and the xampp/htdocs folder /thirtybees as target. I had to learn then how to use the composer and do copy the vendors folder from the named .zip into the target folder. If I got it right and if it makes sense at all I could work on the latest sources locally this way. comments? :)

Yes, that is right and easy since it is also described there in the module that marked parts are not listed/indexed in the sitemap. But still I do not know why modules are listed at all. At least the once I see in my list make no sense to me being there at all as option. I hoped that somebody could explain the reason to me.

Ehm, marked or deactivated? All other modules also deactivated? I really to not get it why the modules are listed at all in the sitemap module. For a decade I thought sitemap content is pretty straight forward but there must be a good reason why this module lists the modules, too?!

Hello I once again spent some hours to work with product images and their compression. I ended up with the conclusion to use Kraken's API in order to not spent to much time on this. So I bought the Kranen.IO module that is compatible with ThirtyBees. I had some difficulties to understand how to set it up in order to make use of Kraken's 'intelligent lossy" compression. I also have installed and active ImageMagick 'Plus'. I thought it might benefit me since it changes JPG's to 'progressive' once in the case I might have forgotten to export them this way in Gimp/IrfanView/Photoshop ?! Also I thought the crop setting is cool since the Kraken module does not offer this though the Api would allow it I think. In summary: shoot product image in raw in high resolution do image proccessing in software of choise, reduce resolution to e.g. 2200 pixels width (in order to satisfy Apple users and those who run displays with mega resolution - or is this the wrong way to do it?) and export it as web image (I use at the moment JPG format with 85% quality and trigger progressive if I not forget it -- but ThirtyBees V1.0.4 supports WebP as format. So, this workflow has to change). UPLOAD it to Thirtybees Thirtbees backoffice image settings are respected and TB produces the given resolutions for the webshop and does another! image compression (or only if possible or not done before? does it recognise in the JPS's that they were already optimized be let's say Photoshop before?) ImageMagick and Kraken modules (overrides) kick in and work on the image (again) Perhaps we and customers can now benefit from crisp and nice and fast loading images. There is another unknown factor to all this for me. Many shoprunners use perhaps StoreCommander for the daily work. I do so. I think there was also advertisement that StoreCommander is compatible with Thirtybees. The issue is if you upload images with StoreCommander this has its own settings how to deal with JPG/PNG, compression and cropping :( Perhaps here is another StoreCommander user and could haev a look at this and explain it? I attach a screenshot of the settings. I had hoped that it would make use of the ThirtyBees settings but if not... Well at least I wonder in this case if ImageMagick module makes any sense any more (since I believe that SC uses the same libraries to crop and compress?). PS: The Kraken Module shows this code: //quality images if ((bool) $this->config_vars['KIO_OPTIMAL_QUALITY'] === false) { $data['lossy'] = true; if ($this->config_vars['KIO_QUALITY'] != 100) { $data['quality'] = (int) $this->config_vars['KIO_QUALITY']; } } So, if module is set to "Optimal" and the module code is $data['lossy'] = true; then it may use Kraken's "intelligent lossy" compression. If we change the code to = false then lossless... ?! Else, if "optimal settings" is off then kicks in an override with fixed set compression in percentage (what is 100% ? also lossless or best lossy?).

Re: Sitemap Well there are indeed many modules I wonder why they are listed... I am sure mine is not optimal set up :(

Cool would be a section in the TB forum where we could download "JSON" overrides for the named themes. Each of the commercial themes has micro data markup integrated but since TB offers the nice TB module "JSON" markup... I am happy with Warehouse theme until TB realeases a template editor for the communinty theme. And I vote for an editor not only for the homepage but also for category pages (category ID) and cms pages (cmd ID).

I also vote for an option to use variables like "date of order", "name" .... etc.

Thank you again. I did not know that. I think I should be more relaxed with this and just not change a running system until there is a RC or stable update.

I still have problems to understand how to maintain TB - at least after doing a manual upgrade to RC 1.0.4. I followed the tut of https://forum.thirtybees.com/topic/1404/upgrade-to-latest-source/14 and noticed that the bankwire module has already version 2.0.6 on Git. In my installation there runs still 2.0.5. This is just an example but is there no auto update anymore? Do I really have to check wheather there are no versions for the modules I run under the RC 1.0.4 Thirtybees?

Update: Firefox Quantum and an extension (LastPass) seem to be partly responsible for the delays. After editing the files above in order to stop the Gstatic/Gmaps ... calls all seems to be pretty fast with Chrome! That is really weird but now I can work again in BO without building up frustration :) PS: still a problem with ganalytics in BO: https://i.imgur.com/vOom7ss.png

Another guess would be to check whether APC is active and to deactivate it. I am hosted at Hetzner Europe but with APC activated in the console of Hetzner and in ThirtyBees as caching method (for page prerender cache) I have irregular problems that are similar to the one you describe. Perhaps deactivate it, make your changes and see if all is fine. Let it run that way a time and perhaps go back to APC. Just a thought, I am no expert only a troubled shop runner.

Well, I have to pick up my complain and question again. I upgraded to 1.0.4 latest repo in the meantime in order to exclude any issues or old bugs with the bo controller etc. But the backoffice orders page still hangs about 5 seconds due to loading google maps ? I have entered an API code in bo for gmaps but this does not help. This is more than annoying and really makes no fun to work in Thirtybees BO. This behaviour started in January so I still believe this is due to some Google servers but I also still believe a free Prestashop for should give us the option to use GoogleMaps/GoogleFonts etc. in Backoffice and elsewhere! But in I am willing to calm down :) and want to ask other European users if they notice or do not notice this delay in bo/orders ? This would be very helpful.

Okay, I see that the tag 1.0.3 dates back to 18th August 2017... So, all committments later than that are part of upcoming 1.0.4. What isn't optimal now for me is that I believe that there are fixes and also improvements that might be related to 1.0.3, too. You know what I mean, everybody wants a flawless and fast as possible core. For me as normal shop runner it is now difficult to stay tuned :) E.g. I have issues with productcomments module. If there are newer committments how do I know if they only work with 1.0.4? What about e.b. latest PayPal module? It is out for months and meant to fix known issues with V5.x. But V6 is still beta or does only work with 1.0.4? So confusing for me that I think best is not be concernced with all that anymore.

Wow, thank you datakick. That was more information than I can dig at the moment but I get a good understanding of the complexity and how I might have to procede. Perhaps I can retrace your examplatory steps in Sourcetree but I see that the need has gone and I am best to wait for stable 1.4. Thanks alot

Hi. I know about that one. Anyhow, my question was not about how to upgrade to 1.0.4 but how to maintain a running 1.0.3 best. The normal shop runner would just wait until the ecommerce system tells him that there are core updated or module updates and would update. That is what I would do too, since I am no expert in all things. BUT I on GIT you see that there are dozens of fixes related to 1.0.3. I am asking what the best method is to get 1.0.3 up to date. Do I have to monitor the GIT and then download each fix --> I <--- might concern important? I think that could certainly cause more problems than solve. Should I download the repo zip (that is also linked in your cited tutorial) and copy it over my 'older' files?...

Hello on GIT we can find the stable TB 1.0.3 and the ReleaseCanditate in development. The latest takes the most horse power/developer ressources I assume but there were of course also some fixes to the TB1.0.3 I have downloaded and installed in OCT2017 or so. How can I make sure I have all these fixes running on my livesystem? I guess I need to monitor the GIT repo. So I installed Sourcetree and cloned the TB repo. Anyway, I need to know how I can make sure that 1.0.3 and 1.0.4 or what ever do not get mixed up when I download... Can some be so nice to take some time to explain this to be in words or screenshot with whatever GIT client he uses (except bash :D). PS: I just stumbled in BO over system information and saw that there are three files listed that are supposed to be different from the source (which ever version (date) is meant and referred to here). Two I could reconize since I changed contend(edited them. But one I did not. The ContactController.php. So I did a file comparisson with the ContactController.php online and the one of the 1.0.3 I once downloaded. Well, they differ very much. => So, in a nutshell, I just want to make sure my V1.0.3 is up to date and I do not post issues and problems in the forum that might be already fixed a long time ago.

Ah, I misunderstood the term RC. Sometimes difficult to stay on track when there is information on the blog, forum, wiki and git... So, I will wait until there is an official release and press thumbs.

Sorry for having doubts about 1.0.4 :) but I am a bit curious why I can not find any bug reportings or issues with 1.0.4 (after upgrading from 1.0.3). I read about adapting themes to the new RC for example but no more. I use the IQIT Warehouse theme and wonder if I have to add 1 1 1 to the theme's xml. And I would normally expect several more issues but all looks to be fine judging from this forum. Do I need to check GIT TB repository issues, too? Or is 1.0.4 still not recommended for a productuve site?

Can this be related to a slow loading BO/orders page? It takes about 7 secs to load and the Ajax circle is spinning. Very annoying. I already posted related to this but to no avail so I wonder that GA Optimized might be the reason? Anyway, after deactivating the module the hickups were not much better. Browser tools name Google related stuff but I have no clue that all: And btw what does "UserID tracking" mean? Thefunction of the module is not very clear to me. Sorry

Today I was in need to give a customer a refund. I clicked in bo orders the related button and Ajax jumped to a certain point downwards on the viewport as usual but the form did not change in order to make a (partial) refund. Well,... what could I do to get things working again? I already flushed cash and and let it running with recompile on for a certain time but to no avail.