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I read this and found my answer! Just for information, if anyone is looking for the same thing for example on Hosting.co.uk's cheapest server. It used to show Error 5.xx messages as above. Cpanel > SelectPHP > Options > Max Execution Time > 1000 then maybe reset to default if I remember. PS I don't know how to delete the first two screenshots here. The second two are the same with arrows.
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I don't know, but since nobody else has answered maybe this is better than nothing. If you have an easy installer system, could you install a default Prestashop 1.7 or 1.6 or Thirtybees and try the module on that? Then get help from the module seller if it fails on the default? I guess that two sets of instructions on an .htaccess file is accident-prone, and to get the simplest set-up is good; maybe remove all your own code from .htaccess. If you have large product photos compared to others on the site, could that be the problem? I notice that your site (seen from the UK) sometimes shows the moving icon like a washing machine that means a script is working slowly. I don't know if that's a clue; maybe there is something in the server set-up that makes scripts slow, and the server people could tell you. If your module is hopeless, I had some luck with the one from Sunnytoo . It worked rather slowly, but got there in the end and didn't leave photo-not-found icons while working. I had to install the module and an over-ride, and then it just worked. Quality isn't great but that could be because I shrank the photos too much. I don't know if anyone knows the best webp module. Nice site, by the way. I hope this helps more than it hinders because I have no clue what the problem is!
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I suppose any of us could help by posting code for bo>preferences>custom code to https://forum.thirtybees.com/forum/23-tips-and-tricks/ Easier than no help at all, if not easy. [PS I don't know why I wrote this as a reply to the button / font color idea rather than any other]
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In case not tried already... Seobility.net keeps me occupied, used about once a week as the free scans can run-out. Also Gtmetrix.com. The Seobilty dashboard page has tabs for onpage, backlinks, and rankings. Suggestions for ranked pages are hard to find at the bottom right of that page, but worth a look if some of your pages already rank on page two. Backlinks aren't much listed on the free account, but if you use the site without an account from another browser the listing is better and you can check your own site and similar ones to see who links. Onpage tests never quite come-right for me but get gradually better. I often score badly for duplicate content but the similar test site ahrefs says I am OK so this isn't a precise measure. The ebbs and flows of popularity are as rapid as tides and should not cause panic. --------update 2021.09.24 Seobility reported high scores but no change in rankings, so I concentrated more on Ahrefs which is free, bit still no big result. I guess without evidence that search engines notice sales and interested visitors, and that I need a more popular product for it to rise in rank.
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Feature request: speed - anything that follows from GTmetrix tests like https://gtmetrix.com/reports/front.thirtybees.com/T2A4gZmo/ I suggest: fewer photos on the demonstration version - maybe no slider by default loading of fonts from the server if they're unlikely to be in a browser cache, and... maybe someone else knows more. Probably Softaculous and Fantastico have demonstration sites for similar software where speeds can be compared. I mentioned image formats in another post. ------------------------edit 15.1.21 so unrelated to comments and reactions underneath I don't know if the google web font link ... https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Raleway:400,500,600,700 ... loads Cyrillic and Vietnamese on sites that don't need them. If so, that might be as much of a problem as which server the font is loaded from
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Textures: ability to size the icons and use them for product photos instead. This is possible already with DIY styling, but help on the backoffice control panel would be good. It could help merchants combine more products into one. @DKO I hope that integration with stock control programs could reduce requests for support and code maintenance; they'd go to the people who maintain the stock control software. -------------16.01.2021 on the same topic from 2+ years ago... oh: 30knees has put it here Maybe this module already exists. If not, I'd be happy to pay €100 towards it. I have odds and ends of sized goods like a slipper in some sizes and a different colour or style in another size. I want a to present them as a neat full-price product. I can call the differences attributes with a big texture icon, making it a theme change rather than a code change, but I have not made it neat and intuitive. I have not worked out how to make the availabe settings obvious or a default pre-selected. The customer has to guess that they choose a size and then a big icon. ---------------------edit 18.01.2021 My checkout is fine but for new users.... ...remove 5 page checkout default altogether; change to 3-page as the logic suggests three pages with a crucial question at the bottom of the first two, so the change would be small. [edit 26.01.2021] The ideal would be a one page checkout by default for new installations, with fewest clicks-to-buy. This is hard to explain to merchants and their customers if one part of the form changes depending on the bit before. So, a three-page checkout by default with a kind of questionnaire to check of merchants are ready for 1-page would be one other way around. Or a basic one page checkout option with less dependencies, but one page, as a default option. Another way to reduce clicks-to-buy is to make all the avoidable form details like gender, title, date of birth optional and turned-off by default. They might belong in a separate module for people who really need them, rather than in the main templates. search engine for Prestashop 1.6 modules or in stages - I could plonk my links list on the tips and tricks section straight away, if nobody minds the competition with the paid modules section of this site - a wiki would be ideal, as links come and go. It could be a free hosted wiki on another url - just as long as it's sometimes updated. I'm sure that lots of users have much the same links list of codecanyon and one or two others - a search box that only searches from links on the wiki. Again this could be a free self-hosted one like google or such. I don't know how to do this off hand but maybe somebody else does.
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Theme: a monospaced font for attributes, so I can write "39.3____6____" as a shoe size and have the one below in a neat column. I already do this but it took time to learn. Nanum Gothic Coding allows thirds and two-thirds signs as a single-spaced character, so it would be a good choice. Stock Sync: online markets There's a module to start integrating with ebay for €200 and amazon for another €200 again. That's if I do the work of trying to map my own data to something that suits ebay or amazon; the module just does the software link. It would be good to have a free module that does most of the work for lots of platforms like the ones on great.gov.uk/selling-online-overseas rather than charge for each one. (same point in another post). Stock Sync: wholesalers I don't know much about this but a way to have some stock back-order-able from a wholesaler, and update this every day or two with a scrape of the wholesalers' web site would be good if they have no better system. I expect that some or all of this would be a paid module, but worth writing-down here anyway. Stock Sync: advanced stock management and multistore This is a bit over-my-head as a small retailer, but I would like to have - a wholesale price and stock list for some items, and maybe - a different domain name and site for just my own brand. I turned-on multistore but found that Categories immediately dissapeared from my front page, so I need instructions to use the software that exists already. I'd also like easy integration with other software that's good at doing stock control; I don't need everything to be built-in to Thirtybees. Odoo and ERPnext are names that have cropped-up but I don't really know what I'm talking about.😀
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Image Regeneration to incease speed. On cheap shared servers it conks-out, but there are modules that can do it somehow on the same server. I guess there are modules that can reduce all images to some pre-set size before processing too. So regenerate images - the same way that the best modules do, that works on a shared server, possibly... - Webp included and any other new image formats perhaps - including a stage to reduce all images to a sensible size (40kb by default perhaps) - and save that as a master copy on the server for each new regeneration This is a speed-of-loading issue, and a workflow issue as well. I reduce the size of images before upload, but it would be quicker if I didn't have to. Once they're on the server, they're in nested directories which are awkward to batch-process if I dowload the pictures again. And if I keep regenerating on the server, some of pictures get fuzzy over time. One solution would be a piece of software that I could download, just to prepare thirtybees photos with imagemagik, but a solution on the server would be simplest for me. [paragraph updated 29.01.2021] It turns out that my cheap hosting.co.uk server can do a batch conversion of images typically 30-40 kb at largest, if I find the right control panel setting to allow it. Maybe this is just an issue with the instructions which is sort-of answered by the forum. forum.thirtybees.com/topic/3889-regenerating-images-5xx-error/ Customer accounts - turn them off easily to reduce customer distractions and clicks-to-buy - without having to hack the code as now - with subtleties, perhaps, for shopkeepers who want to allow accounts, but well-hidden for the odd regular customer, or the odd customer that has an account already or gets one by mistake PS like this suggestion further down the thread
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Thirty Bees Future Announcement
veganline replied to Messenger Bee's topic in Announcements about thirty bees
Siteground and A2 hosting seem to fund CE Phoenix which is a fork of OS Commerce I saw -
Thirty Bees Future Announcement
veganline replied to Messenger Bee's topic in Announcements about thirty bees
Apart from what Musicmaster said, he wrote the mainly-free Prestools program. A built-in-by-default module to install Prestools would make this software easier to learn, I think, for new shopkeepers. Most of us find it in the end but it would be easier to have it there at the start. -
I posted a bad idea and deleted next morning
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Thirty Bees Future Announcement
veganline replied to Messenger Bee's topic in Announcements about thirty bees
Thanks to Emmanual for free moderation all this time Does anyone know some online deliberation software that helps two people with similar needs to agree priorities before sharing payment? Like: A invests $200 for 200 votes, B invests $100 for 100 votes, but the main thing is that A&B agree a brief for a developer with orders of priority, otherwise B walks away, so there is a lot of "this is important to me" "this might depend on that" "that's difficult" "that's too general / specific" "that's easy". If a decision-aid exists like that, it might help get a module funded, for example to integrate with some stock control systems for big merchants or online markets for all of us. I am sure that I saw something like this years ago on a site now defunct... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- added after several posts, reaction and a reply below 2021.01.02 11.48 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.negotiationtool.com/ is the thing I'd seen. It doesn't seem worth a new post until I understand what it is. Sister site Votefair.org has its code and developers' name on Github; the Fullranking domain is abandoned and Negotiationtool looks like a hobby-commercial kind of thing. linked to a book on Solutionscreative.com -
I want to use Block Category Products aka ProductsCategory as intended, to show other products from the same category in the footer of a product page. I also want to have all products in a single category called "home" as well, so the module shows up to 100 products from all categories in the footer and sells less. productscategory.php looks like the file that selects products. The action seems to start about line 109 Does anyone know how to tweak it so that it only shoes categories higher than a certain number? Background info veganline.com is the web site Category ID. 2 "Home" includes all my products. Most are also in Category ID. 8 "Search by Size". These are the two lowest category IDs. My other categories are all more narrow and descriptive, like "belts" and "sandals", and more useful to show in the footer. I don't show prices in the footer; just thumbnails. The reason for "Home" is just to reduce the middle breadcrumb layers that show. I use breadcrumbs in large type instead of headers. There might be other ways of doing this, but I also have a "Search by Size" page in the categories,
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I've tried taking-out as much as I can, including logo and the header section. Maybe the "Quick View" text isn't necessary if you have a magnifying glass symbol.
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Thanks! Do you have any links for sources of information? My scale of business suits walking to the post office and trading under VAT thresholds, so I am not really linked in.
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What kind of parcels will you send? Gov.uk/prepare-to-export-from-great-britain-from-january-2021 doesn't say what happens if a retailer sends to a consumer in the EU. If a parcel arrives rather late, with an EU VAT bill attached, I think my customers would refuse it or send it back. Maybe we will see on the TV news what happens to the first few thousand before I get an order from the EU. I am not registered for VAT so I hope I can continue to send small parcels un-taxed. I'll need EORI Electronic Operator number needed for electronic customs declarations if the system is ever set-up, but I got the number very quickly CN22 paper customs declaration. Like https://www.pdffiller.com/jsfiller-desk18/ or https://www.royalmail.com/sites/royalmail.com/files/2020-03/customs-declaration-cn22-march-2020.pdf https://www.gov.uk/trade-tariff For the customs sticker, country of origen or maybe the trading block, Harm code like 640419 for most nonleather shoes Paid price including delivery and some breakdown including weight This page offers to tell me about VAT but doesn't (?) For efficiency it would be good to have this information on whatever paper I print, maybe even formatted to look like the standard CN22 form. Maybe large-scale traders need this quickly. I hoped to see some kind of government grant for software updates but don't see one. Gov.uk/government/publications/hmrc-brexit-transition-communications-resources has some pdf-formatted documents saying "get ready" but they do not say what to do until we get a sober prime minister - they suggest checking with specialists, but if I look on web sites like RoyalMail or Parcel2go , the experts do not have any information pages either.
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I expect to go with the successor, whether or not it's called Thirtybees. Is that "Modified shop?" I've learned obscure tricks on TB and added modules like Prestools. Just tried a softaculous setup of WP+Woocommerce + a free importer plugin I haven't seen anything to tempt me away yet. Shipping zones were one of the draws to Prestashop and Thirtybees when I signed-up. I can set post office shopping zones (UK, Europe, World, Oceana) to match Thirtybees zones (Europe, Africa, etc) and type-in prices for a 2kg parcel. It takes an hour or two, but it's free. Woocommerce might have countries zoned somewhere but I didn't spot it. Thirtybees installs all-in-one-go from Softaculous. It's not obvious how to find the shop page for Woo on Wordpress, so I haven't done a speed test yet I vaguely think Thirtybees is fast-loading compared to a lot of the others, but could be wrong. Canonicalized.com/prestashop-vs-woocommerce says that there aren't many clicks to checkout on Woocommerce which is good, although I've solved that problem on TB. Magento Gross; slow. It's for people who don't pay for their own server. Shopify / Hosted closed-source Doesn't feel nice after having the freedom of an open source shop with loads of extras and tweaks possible. I doubt I could do the search engine optimisation or the tweaks like belts cut to length that I do on Thirtybees Opencart It's on Softaculous so I'd give it a look. Someone on this forum said it's fast. There is a Phoenix forked version on Softaculous as well. Chandra Enev on this forum said it's more basic than Thirtybees in the default version; you have to pimp it up with modules. Anything else on Softaculous I'd look at Cubecart because it's made in the country where I live, but there are too many to test; all the more reason to stay with Thirtybees. Cost: Afterthought 15.27 30.12.20 €3 or $3 buys monthly shared TB hosting, with Softaculous installation on Hosting.co.uk. Hostinger throws-in a free SSL certificate too, which saves trying to use Cloudflare. €30 or $30 buys Shopify or Bigcommerce Magento needs a more expensive server too
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Problem just fixed; no need to reply: images dissapear from front page after adding Bing Clarity code Problem worth mentioning in case it effects other people. I got some javascript from Bing called "clarity" to add to my page headers. In fact I'd had it for a while but Bing gave me a new bit of code, so I put it in bo > preferences > custom code > Add extra Javascript to your pages Then... Images on the front page of my site turned into white boxes with some kind of .png dot that showed as a white blank. Images on product pages were fine except that the view of five or six thumbnails under the large first images turned into a view of every single thumbnail, which I prefer, but I don't like the lack of images on the front page. A 360 view plugin stopped working too; it was meant to show one or two dozen images in a javascript rotating thing. After a litte experimenting I was lucky to remember this recent change and try un-doing it as an experiment. My pictures of images came back. The reason for posting is so that anyone who's front page pictures go blank can check whether it is Microsoft Clarity or Bing Clarity that clashes as it did for me.
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Secondary Pages and User Pages Won't Load...
veganline replied to WildToddMan's question in Bug Reports
This is vague; I hope it helps more than hinders. A similar thing happens when installing via Softaculous on my live server: backoffice > preferences > settings > enable SSL : on backoffice > preferences > settings > enable SSL on all pages : on ...solves it. I have to do it straight after a fresh installation, otherwise it is impossible to log-on to the back office and do it. I typed "ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS" into the forum search and found other people trying to fix the url and make it match what's on the .htaccess file, but I don't know an exact answer.- 21 replies
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Thirty Bees Future Announcement
veganline replied to Messenger Bee's topic in Announcements about thirty bees
I guess that sponsoring developers hope for new retail clients who want a shop developed or maintained. Then there's pocket money to be had from referrals to hosting and card processing, from odd-jobs and modules, and donations or volunteer work. I hope so anyway, because recession has held-back business a bit where I am and this Prestashop 1.6 / Thirtybees / Whatevernext software could be a big help when things pick-up. -
backoffice > preferences > custom code > add css to pages Find out if you can reach it easily on your screen; the link is right near the bottom of the preferences menu by default. browser showing a test site > right click > inspect Experiement - it sounds as though you have done this already. On my Chrome browser, right-clicking again on the highlighted part brings up a menu with "copy selector" and "copy styles" as options. Paste experiments onto the "add css to pages" box of a test site to make them stick. I hope I've understood right!
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UK answer: Post Office Drop-and-Go Thirtybees sends me an email with the order on it. I have formatted this to include an address somewhere near the top left. I print the email and put in a window envelope on the parcel before dropping-off at a post office. Post Office Drop-and-go service adds the right stamps and gives me basic online proof of delivery. I acknowledge the order manually if I remember, which is not good. Drop-and-Go are a few pence more expensive than Royal Mail online labels. I have to attach a form to the parcel or stack of parcels that I drop-off, listing street numbers and postcodes. Also, I haven't quite formatted the email right; it shows with "from... to... date... email logo etc" on the top inch, which I fold-over. I don't know how this translates to the post office /USPS in the US. Also I think that there are Hermes modules for Thirtybees in some European countries, but don't know detail.
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Thirty Bees Future Announcement
veganline replied to Messenger Bee's topic in Announcements about thirty bees
Any reason to delay buying an ebay module till the next software version? I guess the answer is "no" or "can't say", but ask anyway. -
I was on a long thread about (quoting musicmaster) "attributes that don't affect the stock, such a whether a piece of furniture is polished". In my case, belt strap lengths. One per belt. Nothing depends on it. I went for JBW's new paid module "Customization Directly to Cart" for PS or TB; contact details are on PS. The advantage over default customization options is that you don't have to press "save" at the bottom of the screen somewhere and then scroll-up to press "buy"; a product page witih 1,000 different types of polishing, or length of strap, can be made to look and act just like a page for attributes that are held in stock.
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I'm probably irrelevant here, but /overrides/classes/mail.php is worth disabling if you have it, and this thread has an idea about http to https redirection and error-message checking.