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No need to create an account with Stripe. The customer hardly notices them. No need to read the rest of this but it's easy to type so here goes. Refunds greater than payments are my only hassle with Stripe, ever. ( I offered the customer cash in an envelope, stamps, or paypal but she felt sorry for me and did not reply, so I doubt she'll be back. ) Stripe want a postcode / zipcode next to the card details; it's good to find a way to warn customers that they will have to enter the info twice, like adding a title="you have to enter this again next to the card number" in the code for for the form where customers enter it first. That isn't typical, though. My main impression is that it is that Stripe modules and payment pages are written by much better coders than the competition; the cursor moves along the form as you type in a card number / expiry date / thingy numbers / in a way that I seldom notice as a customer on other sites. The module inserts a Stripe payment form onto my checkout page as soon as the customer confirms the address. Payment arrives a few days later in my bank account automatically, which I think is slower than Paypal (from when I was on two P2P car hire agencies and one used Stripe while the other used Paypal) If I want to refund a customer and have no money in my stripe account, it's like Paypal; I have to put the money there for the customer to get a refund a few days quicker, and there is the hassle of not being able to repay more than the amount paid of course. I can send a customer a link to a Stripe page with a receipt on it, if I think the customer needs re-assurance. I think there's even a short url to help do it. If I were a better shopkeeper I might have versions of the site for different currency areas and I guess that Stripe can charge in different currencies but have not tried. I guess it can take payments from European or Asian card systems that look obscure to me, but have not had customers asking me to check. There's no need for support, but if I do need it there is very little compared to Elavon; it's more like Paypal. Nobody you can ring. You think you've found a support page and then get automated responses before finally being able to send an email for a reply a day or two later by someone in an office in North Africa trying to make sense of their company handbook, maybe checking with the boss if I have an awkward question so the replies are slow. Then there is a "how to you rate your support?" I said the problem was the message, not the messenger and they promised to make a note. Thirtybees' free Stripe module works without a hitch, and the good side of not seeing the card numbers is that you don't have to think about the precautions system, whatever it is; a questionnaire I had to fill-in each year when I used Elevon. I had no complaint with Elavon, which is an anglo-irish company set-up by one of the banks, but I relied on a work-around that let me type real live card numbers from another ecommerce system into part of their site, which took time and was a responsibility. I did a half-minute search and found no free module for Elavon and PS1.6 although there is a paid one. Elavon have higher support costs than Stripe so I guess they'll never be cheaper. Talking of typing card numbers manually into a web site, years ago UK MBNA cards allowed you to make a balance transfer from any UK debit card without commission, so I did, whenever someone paid by debit card. It was slow, and after a while they added a clause that said "the card must be in your name", so I stopped. I tried Nochex as a backup for a while - a small UK firm. They tend to want a £50 set-up fee and want to keep your cash until they're sure they can risk and afford to let you have it, they're not cheap, and their graphics look a bit like Windows 95. I have never tried Simplify.com/commerce . Last time I looked they only operated in the USA and Ireland where I don't sell enough to want a separate card processor, but I got the impression that they're a little bit cheaper. They have a module on github for PS1.7 but not tested on PS1.6 / Thirtybees. PS/Thirtybees default one page checkout is a bit laborious in order to let you have different payment systems in different countries, so this would be an up-side to the system if you want that. Just recently I used Wise (= Transferwise) for bank transfer to different currencies because they are cheap. I suppose there might be a way to adapt Thirtybees bank transfer module if you sell things for hundreds or thousands of £$€ and want low fees for yourself and your customer; if you want them to make a bank transfer in their own currency and reserve the product until money is received. I have not thought how it would work. Currencyfair is the same kind of thing as Wise, buy Wise give you a personal bank account number if you want to be paid (not refunded) in one of their currencies. I haven't used this but guess it's useful to some people. I don't remember what I pay for stripe, which I initially got from a link on Waveapps when that firm worked in the UK, but I think it was similar to Elavon and a bit less than Paypal for a regular business customer. Hope this helps John

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https://store.thirtybees.com/shop-modules/price-by-surface-volume-length-perimeter-weight is on Thirtybees market I haven't used any price / size module and don't know the differences between them. but the FMG Modules developer in Turkey gets decent reviews. As the post above said, it's worth being the first to test a PS1.6.1 module on Thirtybees if it's closer to what you want.

Stripe.com/docs/refunds ...says I can refund the full amount but no more, which is what I want to do because I want to refund someone's return postage. What do other merchants do?

Doesn't decrypt in my copy of TB (unless I am doing something wrong); I get no report after pressing "decrypt"

Dunnit. bo > shipping > carriers > add a new carrier For the logo I used a post office volume diagram showing width height & depth. I have not worked-out how to copy an existing courier for all the zones. I had to start from scratch and type "test" as a name and "test" as a delivery time before being allowed to pages two and three to set ranges of volumes, weights and zones. Half way down each of these pages is "out of range behaviour" > disable I used weight but it could be done with volume as well if needed. This is my summery. CARRIER NAME LETTER POST FOR INSOLES IN THE UK This carrier is not free and the delivery announced is: within a week. The shipping cost is calculated according to the weight and the tax rule No tax will be applied. This carrier can deliver orders from 0.00 Kg to 0.10 Kg. If the order is out of range, the behavior is to Disable carrier. This carrier will be proposed for those delivery zones UK

ST Themes are the people to ask, a China-based theme & module business with good reviews for the themes and modules. They are a bit picky about which of their themes they will support for Thirtybees but thirtybees.sunnytoo.com shows their Panda theme for Prestashop 1.6 sold actively for Thirtybees. If you are tight for time, and better at getting products and sales and happy customers than theme-tweaking, maybe a change of theme is worth paying for, for very slight changes in default settings and ease of editing. Someone called Jollyfrog on this forum began writing a whole new free one from scratch a few weeks ago but I don't know of progress.

I dont know but https://prestacraft.com/search-by-category-in-prestashop/ has instructions for people who like dabbling with code. I haven't tried to follow the instructions. The same site recommends thirtybees on https://prestacraft.com/10-great-prestashop-tools-you-might-not-hear-about/ The layered navigation module can't search a category for text, but it can search a category for an attribute like size if you are looking in that category already. It's a module that comes as a standard part of thirtybees.

Merchants Edition has a different backoffice theme and its own updater that helped me. There's probably a demo version somewhere. Slightly duskier and more subdued with a few extranious details removed. Any improvements in that fork are copywrite and can't be cloned straight back by thirtybees developer(s) though, if any; they have to be altered slightly to get around the copywrite, which seems a waste of scarce developer hours. I expect a merchant can use the theme just as it is.

Features: meta data space for Schema.org and Google Product Categories. Foolproof. Shown by default to search engines. In a bit more detail... Non-theme. Features The software has Feature fields called "Title" and "URL", which accept data in a fresh install but not for me in practice; I read that they're sensitive to over-rides. (added: I think they're for a new page that lists all products with that feature, but have not got the hang) I'd like to use them for Schema.org and Google Merchant Center meta data. There's a Wakabayashi post on May 1st which has more ideas for features. Product Fields Most could be default features. So if you use UPC barcodes but not EAN barcodes, you don't have unused code on product.tpl for the EAN field; it's just a default feature that you delete. If you use ISBN for books, just name a feature and add the metadata. (You'd have to think how to show that feature near the top of a product page without overloading a cheap shared server; maybe a template file that shows the first three default features without any {for each} loops if they're slower to render on a cheap server) As it is, my Niara theme shows some product fields by default with Schema.org tags, which is great if they happen to be the ones that are important to my human customers and the robot spiders. I think the spiders' priorities change quicker and they are more brand-concious than humans. Shipping cost on the front page Some estimate available to theme writers, so they can put it on the product page, would be good. Weight Width Depth Height are available for a guest customers before ordering. If there was a variable for a table of all shipping prices, or some of them, that would be good. I don't know if it's a theme problem or a TB problem, but it has been an unanswered thread on Prestashop since 29th of May 2015 ; it's "solved" for PS1.5 but not for PS1.6 or PS1.7, six years ago as I write... prestashop.com/forums/topic/424375-solved-shipping-price-on-product-page/ Theme. My Niara theme lists features near the bottom of the page, without meta data. Merchants.google.com's spider ignores them even if I type google merchant center tags as features. Some time I will work-out how to take a specific feature, show it nearer the top of the page, and type my own meta data into the template file, but it's a slow process to learn all this. Size. A way of putting meta-data like "schema.org/size" round a size attribute would be good. I might done it already on the product template. Maybe there are better ways already. shipping_weight width height and depth on the product page by default would be good. I've learned to do it, more or less well. Maybe a module could do it better and the free Advanced EU Compliance module does add weight to the front page. shipping price on the product page by default (Other ways-around: product feed modules I've paid for a couple of modules to upload data straight to Google, Ebay, and Amazon, but haven't yet learned to use them and not everyone buys the modules. As someone said further back in the thread "Online markets - there's a reason there are paid modules. Markets integration rules and methods change and improve constantly, and require support. Support = money." So if there is a search spider that might find some of this information in between going to fashion shows and changing its search habits, all the better.)

Is there a guide to finding a variable and making it available to a template like product.tpl? I know there's not enough money in open source software for anyone to make a living and write instruction books at the same time, so maybe someone random knows! The variable I need is anything to do with delivery rates; whatever can be found before a customer orders or registers. Something like that was discovered for Prestashop 1.5 here: https://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/424375-solved-shipping-price-on-product-page/ but I need to learn a bit more before I can apply it to Prestashop 1.6.1 / Thirtybees. (There are work-arounds. It's possible to have a different template for different products so I can just write my own information freehand into the template and have another template for each unusual weight or size. That gets harder for exports - weight & dimensions effect most products rather than a few.) (I read that writing {debug} at the top of a template on a copied site shows me what I can call-up and that I can write code to declare weight width depth and height if set for the shopping cart already. If I understood how the shopping cart calculates postage, maybe I could repeat that work on the product.tpl page.)

PART-ANSWERED ON Does anyone know how to make a shipping price variable available to the product template ? It could be for the whole table of shipping weights and zones, or for each zone at a certain weight, or... ..anything to get started. https://docs.thirtybees.com/native-modules/advanced-eu-compliance/ which comes which comes free and bundled has this: {if $delivery_price} <div class = "estimated_delivery_price"> {l s='Initial delivery costs estimate :'}{convertPrice price=$delivery_price} </div> {/if} ... as though $delivery_price could somehow be found but it doesn't say how. There's a thread for Prestashop 1.5 that says add something to the product controller, but I it needs translating for Prestashop 1.6 and is one of those threads that the firm never answered: https://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/424375-solved-shipping-price-on-product-page/

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I only know what's on the forum but there's a statement on themes here - - in a thread where someone offered to write a new one. I don't know of any way to help with the new one or whether it's still being worked-on.

It worked! I took it slowly, on backup copies, and the new version still doesn't connect to a PHP 7.3 database, but the main thing is that it works. I tried a vanilla update module as well (thirtybees not merchants edition) and it didn't work. Thanks.

Thanks for patience! The module does not update though; the next button stays grey and the usual red error about "see javascript console" appears. I had a thought: my PHP 7.2 doesn't have libcurl; it has curl. Could that be the hitch? For some reason my site fails if I just change PHP from 7.2 to 7.3

Solved. I ticked the APC box on my server's PHP settings to match my choice of APC cache. I used a lot of caching including one page cache on module files themselves which looked a bad ida.

Same thing. 🙁 Thanks for the idea!

I tried with the other version of PHP. Also tried turning-on all extensions, without result, before reverting. The error log is the same every time *ERROR* 2021/05/08 - 09:49:31: Server error: `POST https://api.thirtybees.com/coreupdater/master.php` resulted in a `500 Internal Server Error` response: {"success":false,"error":{"code":"INVALID_REQUEST","message":"Revision issue-1258 not found"}}

I have the same problem that hasn't gone away. There's no setting I can find for libcurl or curl on my web host's php editor. I tried changing from php 7.2 to php 7.1 and back with no result. I tried copying a new updater file from github and posting it over the old one on a test site. Sometimes my updator recognises versions like "1.1" "1.2", "stable", and sometimes it recognises a lot more, but whatever I try to update to whatever the error messages are below (if I have got the right log to upload). Any ideas are welcome. My site is working so: no rush. I just want to solve this before it's important PS I tried deleting the cache including /GitUpdateStorage.php 20210507_exception.log

I don't know. I was about to reply that I used https://github.com/dim00z/gshoppingflux but, on checking, I don't and cannot install. Maybe someone else can install a free xml feed somehow? -------------first posted May 6th ; update June 5th I have bought the Datakick module. It's twice the price of the cheapest Prestashop one, but it looks like something that will teach me what data I have and how I can put it into an xml feed in a foolproof and pretty way for any purpose and any way I like, so worth the extra. Otherwise I would have to pay for a module for every single platform. There's a half price version that lasts a year, and a free fortnight to get set-up if you are quick at setting-up. Once done, the module makes an "end point" such as "example.com/endpoints/google.xml", and creates a fresh up-to-date file from the database whenever anyone such as a google bot asks for it. I can't give more of a review because I'm working on adding schema.org tags to products first, just to see how far I can get before learning how to make xml feeds work.

Changing product template files A more direct answer to your question. The nearest I can think of is to do it for certain products, by using an edited prduct template. Product templates look like this: https://github.com/thirtybees/niara/blob/master/product.tpl If you can get to the file on your server (example.com/themes/niara/templates/product.tpl if your theme is Niara)... You can copy and then edit the template. What I did was to delete equivalent lines to 435 to 463 on the githb link. The loop of code that begins "<div class="box-cart-bottom">". If your server has built-in editing software it might compact the loop of code into one line before you delete it, so you can be sure of getting the right end point, which is difficult otherwise. Your new product template will no longer show a shopping cart and can be enabled from any product page in the back office. If your product is "fresh bread", Backoffice > Catalog > Products > Fresh Bread > Template Manager > choose your new template from the drop-down menu (There is probably a way of editing a product template to ignore "catalog mode", which you can turn on or off from Backoffice > Preferences > General > Catalog Mode | Off The edited template would ignore the switch, but all the products using the standard template could have their shopping carts switched on or off in one go. I haven't tried it though - you'd have to experiment). (I don't know a way of doing for a category)

I think I know what you mean but have lost the way I did it! So here is a simple answer and an unfinished part of the complicated answer. Simplest. Use backoffice > preferences > CMS to write a page about whatever you want that has no shopping cart form included. By default the url will be example.com>info>newpage but this can be changed. There is a basic html editor built-in, which you can upgrade, or if you have a desktop html editor you can experiment. Use backoffice> catalog for anything that needs an online shopping cart and maybe some kind of inventory system [second part deleted] Hope this helps more than hinders

I'm not a Prestashop or Thirtybees coder - just another merchant - but my understanding is that customers are asked to register at checkout. It's possible to take this option away, so that every customer is a guest customer, and I wrote a method in the tips and tricks section. As with any such, it only suits some people at a certain time; it doesn't refer to the new checkout modules that have been written since, and it is for merchants who want their customers to avoid the hassle of registering; you might have some reason to want them to do it. Hope this helps more than hinders

I'm interested in this. http://front.thirtybees.com/ checked on https://gtmetrix.com/reports/front.thirtybees.com/nSVsByRN/ shows fontawsome right at the beginning of what a browser has to load. The current version has a smaller file size than mine - 4.7kb served from cloudflare - but I guess it still includes the load of unused icons. If anyone has a version of Fontawsome with minimal icons, it would be great if they could post the .woff2 file here or on the tips and tricks section. I've tried editing the fontoawesome-webfont.woff2 file down to just the magifying-glass, shopping-basket, x-expand, print, info, and the social media icons I use, but I hack in an accident-prone way and it has not worked yet. Browsers seem to cache icons for a long time, so the box-shaped default only shows after a week or two. @jollyfrog You mentioned a draft new theme for the front page at least. If I can use my hacking skillls to see if I can make it work as a symphny-theme page like the one in the current theme, just let me know,