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ST Themes are the people to ask, a China-based theme & module business with good reviews for the themes and modules. They are a bit picky about which of their themes they will support for Thirtybees but thirtybees.sunnytoo.com shows their Panda theme for Prestashop 1.6 sold actively for Thirtybees. If you are tight for time, and better at getting products and sales and happy customers than theme-tweaking, maybe a change of theme is worth paying for, for very slight changes in default settings and ease of editing. Someone called Jollyfrog on this forum began writing a whole new free one from scratch a few weeks ago but I don't know of progress.

I dont know but https://prestacraft.com/search-by-category-in-prestashop/ has instructions for people who like dabbling with code. I haven't tried to follow the instructions. The same site recommends thirtybees on https://prestacraft.com/10-great-prestashop-tools-you-might-not-hear-about/ The layered navigation module can't search a category for text, but it can search a category for an attribute like size if you are looking in that category already. It's a module that comes as a standard part of thirtybees.

Merchants Edition has a different backoffice theme and its own updater that helped me. There's probably a demo version somewhere. Slightly duskier and more subdued with a few extranious details removed. Any improvements in that fork are copywrite and can't be cloned straight back by thirtybees developer(s) though, if any; they have to be altered slightly to get around the copywrite, which seems a waste of scarce developer hours. I expect a merchant can use the theme just as it is.

Features: meta data space for Schema.org and Google Product Categories. Foolproof. Shown by default to search engines. In a bit more detail... Non-theme. Features The software has Feature fields called "Title" and "URL", which accept data in a fresh install but not for me in practice; I read that they're sensitive to over-rides. (added: I think they're for a new page that lists all products with that feature, but have not got the hang) I'd like to use them for Schema.org and Google Merchant Center meta data. There's a Wakabayashi post on May 1st which has more ideas for features. Product Fields Most could be default features. So if you use UPC barcodes but not EAN barcodes, you don't have unused code on product.tpl for the EAN field; it's just a default feature that you delete. If you use ISBN for books, just name a feature and add the metadata. (You'd have to think how to show that feature near the top of a product page without overloading a cheap shared server; maybe a template file that shows the first three default features without any {for each} loops if they're slower to render on a cheap server) As it is, my Niara theme shows some product fields by default with Schema.org tags, which is great if they happen to be the ones that are important to my human customers and the robot spiders. I think the spiders' priorities change quicker and they are more brand-concious than humans. Shipping cost on the front page Some estimate available to theme writers, so they can put it on the product page, would be good. Weight Width Depth Height are available for a guest customers before ordering. If there was a variable for a table of all shipping prices, or some of them, that would be good. I don't know if it's a theme problem or a TB problem, but it has been an unanswered thread on Prestashop since 29th of May 2015 ; it's "solved" for PS1.5 but not for PS1.6 or PS1.7, six years ago as I write... prestashop.com/forums/topic/424375-solved-shipping-price-on-product-page/ Theme. My Niara theme lists features near the bottom of the page, without meta data. Merchants.google.com's spider ignores them even if I type google merchant center tags as features. Some time I will work-out how to take a specific feature, show it nearer the top of the page, and type my own meta data into the template file, but it's a slow process to learn all this. Size. A way of putting meta-data like "schema.org/size" round a size attribute would be good. I might done it already on the product template. Maybe there are better ways already. shipping_weight width height and depth on the product page by default would be good. I've learned to do it, more or less well. Maybe a module could do it better and the free Advanced EU Compliance module does add weight to the front page. shipping price on the product page by default (Other ways-around: product feed modules I've paid for a couple of modules to upload data straight to Google, Ebay, and Amazon, but haven't yet learned to use them and not everyone buys the modules. As someone said further back in the thread "Online markets - there's a reason there are paid modules. Markets integration rules and methods change and improve constantly, and require support. Support = money." So if there is a search spider that might find some of this information in between going to fashion shows and changing its search habits, all the better.)

Is there a guide to finding a variable and making it available to a template like product.tpl? I know there's not enough money in open source software for anyone to make a living and write instruction books at the same time, so maybe someone random knows! The variable I need is anything to do with delivery rates; whatever can be found before a customer orders or registers. Something like that was discovered for Prestashop 1.5 here: https://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/424375-solved-shipping-price-on-product-page/ but I need to learn a bit more before I can apply it to Prestashop 1.6.1 / Thirtybees. (There are work-arounds. It's possible to have a different template for different products so I can just write my own information freehand into the template and have another template for each unusual weight or size. That gets harder for exports - weight & dimensions effect most products rather than a few.) (I read that writing {debug} at the top of a template on a copied site shows me what I can call-up and that I can write code to declare weight width depth and height if set for the shopping cart already. If I understood how the shopping cart calculates postage, maybe I could repeat that work on the product.tpl page.)

PART-ANSWERED ON Does anyone know how to make a shipping price variable available to the product template ? It could be for the whole table of shipping weights and zones, or for each zone at a certain weight, or... ..anything to get started. https://docs.thirtybees.com/native-modules/advanced-eu-compliance/ which comes which comes free and bundled has this: {if $delivery_price} <div class = "estimated_delivery_price"> {l s='Initial delivery costs estimate :'}{convertPrice price=$delivery_price} </div> {/if} ... as though $delivery_price could somehow be found but it doesn't say how. There's a thread for Prestashop 1.5 that says add something to the product controller, but I it needs translating for Prestashop 1.6 and is one of those threads that the firm never answered: https://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/424375-solved-shipping-price-on-product-page/

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I only know what's on the forum but there's a statement on themes here - - in a thread where someone offered to write a new one. I don't know of any way to help with the new one or whether it's still being worked-on.

It worked! I took it slowly, on backup copies, and the new version still doesn't connect to a PHP 7.3 database, but the main thing is that it works. I tried a vanilla update module as well (thirtybees not merchants edition) and it didn't work. Thanks.

Thanks for patience! The module does not update though; the next button stays grey and the usual red error about "see javascript console" appears. I had a thought: my PHP 7.2 doesn't have libcurl; it has curl. Could that be the hitch? For some reason my site fails if I just change PHP from 7.2 to 7.3

Solved. I ticked the APC box on my server's PHP settings to match my choice of APC cache. I used a lot of caching including one page cache on module files themselves which looked a bad ida.

Same thing. 🙁 Thanks for the idea!

I tried with the other version of PHP. Also tried turning-on all extensions, without result, before reverting. The error log is the same every time *ERROR* 2021/05/08 - 09:49:31: Server error: `POST https://api.thirtybees.com/coreupdater/master.php` resulted in a `500 Internal Server Error` response: {"success":false,"error":{"code":"INVALID_REQUEST","message":"Revision issue-1258 not found"}}

I have the same problem that hasn't gone away. There's no setting I can find for libcurl or curl on my web host's php editor. I tried changing from php 7.2 to php 7.1 and back with no result. I tried copying a new updater file from github and posting it over the old one on a test site. Sometimes my updator recognises versions like "1.1" "1.2", "stable", and sometimes it recognises a lot more, but whatever I try to update to whatever the error messages are below (if I have got the right log to upload). Any ideas are welcome. My site is working so: no rush. I just want to solve this before it's important PS I tried deleting the cache including /GitUpdateStorage.php 20210507_exception.log

I don't know. I was about to reply that I used https://github.com/dim00z/gshoppingflux but, on checking, I don't and cannot install. Maybe someone else can install a free xml feed somehow? -------------first posted May 6th ; update June 5th I have bought the Datakick module. It's twice the price of the cheapest Prestashop one, but it looks like something that will teach me what data I have and how I can put it into an xml feed in a foolproof and pretty way for any purpose and any way I like, so worth the extra. Otherwise I would have to pay for a module for every single platform. There's a half price version that lasts a year, and a free fortnight to get set-up if you are quick at setting-up. Once done, the module makes an "end point" such as "example.com/endpoints/google.xml", and creates a fresh up-to-date file from the database whenever anyone such as a google bot asks for it. I can't give more of a review because I'm working on adding schema.org tags to products first, just to see how far I can get before learning how to make xml feeds work.

Changing product template files A more direct answer to your question. The nearest I can think of is to do it for certain products, by using an edited prduct template. Product templates look like this: https://github.com/thirtybees/niara/blob/master/product.tpl If you can get to the file on your server (example.com/themes/niara/templates/product.tpl if your theme is Niara)... You can copy and then edit the template. What I did was to delete equivalent lines to 435 to 463 on the githb link. The loop of code that begins "<div class="box-cart-bottom">". If your server has built-in editing software it might compact the loop of code into one line before you delete it, so you can be sure of getting the right end point, which is difficult otherwise. Your new product template will no longer show a shopping cart and can be enabled from any product page in the back office. If your product is "fresh bread", Backoffice > Catalog > Products > Fresh Bread > Template Manager > choose your new template from the drop-down menu (There is probably a way of editing a product template to ignore "catalog mode", which you can turn on or off from Backoffice > Preferences > General > Catalog Mode | Off The edited template would ignore the switch, but all the products using the standard template could have their shopping carts switched on or off in one go. I haven't tried it though - you'd have to experiment). (I don't know a way of doing for a category)

I think I know what you mean but have lost the way I did it! So here is a simple answer and an unfinished part of the complicated answer. Simplest. Use backoffice > preferences > CMS to write a page about whatever you want that has no shopping cart form included. By default the url will be example.com>info>newpage but this can be changed. There is a basic html editor built-in, which you can upgrade, or if you have a desktop html editor you can experiment. Use backoffice> catalog for anything that needs an online shopping cart and maybe some kind of inventory system [second part deleted] Hope this helps more than hinders

I'm not a Prestashop or Thirtybees coder - just another merchant - but my understanding is that customers are asked to register at checkout. It's possible to take this option away, so that every customer is a guest customer, and I wrote a method in the tips and tricks section. As with any such, it only suits some people at a certain time; it doesn't refer to the new checkout modules that have been written since, and it is for merchants who want their customers to avoid the hassle of registering; you might have some reason to want them to do it. Hope this helps more than hinders

I'm interested in this. http://front.thirtybees.com/ checked on https://gtmetrix.com/reports/front.thirtybees.com/nSVsByRN/ shows fontawsome right at the beginning of what a browser has to load. The current version has a smaller file size than mine - 4.7kb served from cloudflare - but I guess it still includes the load of unused icons. If anyone has a version of Fontawsome with minimal icons, it would be great if they could post the .woff2 file here or on the tips and tricks section. I've tried editing the fontoawesome-webfont.woff2 file down to just the magifying-glass, shopping-basket, x-expand, print, info, and the social media icons I use, but I hack in an accident-prone way and it has not worked yet. Browsers seem to cache icons for a long time, so the box-shaped default only shows after a week or two. @jollyfrog You mentioned a draft new theme for the front page at least. If I can use my hacking skillls to see if I can make it work as a symphny-theme page like the one in the current theme, just let me know,

When I google this question, I see people recommending Fontforge, but I have trouble saving a .woff2 file from it and hope there's an easier way. All I need to do is delete unwanted fontawsome icons, save as fontawsome-webfont.woff2, and upload back to /themes/niara/fonts/font-awesome/fontawsome-webfont.woff2 It's a bit accident-prone, even if the software were easy. I think I need magnifying glass, basket, phone, expand-X, Info, Print, and social media icons but am unlikely to get it right first time. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------added a month later : link to video instructions https://www.grantojanen.com/videos/pg/optimize-fonts.html has a video. Apparently I was saving or making my reduced font set in the wrong place - it's a bit unintuitive on fontforge. There's also the question of which icons are not used in my theme: there must be a way of downloading a copy and searching every template, but I just left-in anything to do with chevrons and ecommerce and social networks.

One guess: if you can get to the back office, go to preferences>general> enable SSL There might be an option to "enable SSL on all pages" to do too. I don't know why this solves the "too many redirects" error, but it does for me, using Thirtybees installed via Softaculous on a shared server with a free Cloudflare SSL certificate

Somebody did some work, trying to link UK postcodes to courier zones a few years ago. It is above my head but might help someone ...prestashop.com/forums/topic/105334-extension-uk-postal-zones-pack/ (I'm just a merchant commenting so this is a bit off-topic)

Just curious: was it one of the Zonat.SA brands and did they manage to fix it? I got a mangled Softaculous backups about the same time and they're working on it. - just now fixed by restoring all emails databases and files back four days

Rewritten.. inbound and outbound to remove the last of a product from all platforms. Re-listing could be done after a manual check. mapping of variables between platforms looks like the hard bit. I guess that the abiiity to write a product listing on a platform like Amazon an import all the variables into Thirtybees could be a way of doing it for some people. Afterthought 1 I found a free Prestashop module for exporting a product feed in a way Google understands, and my search rankings briefly went up, so I suppose this is useful and worth having built-in to the core software, whatever it is. Afterthought 2 about the UK This bunch... [https://www.gov.uk/guidance/e-exporting](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/e-exporting) ...keep a long list of the platforms I have not heard of, and claim to help merchants integrate. I don't know if anyone has had replies from them. Afterthought 3 - UK budget might pay for new software but I don't know what's real yet UK: company corporation tax - current reasons not to pay - https://www.gov.uk/corporation-tax-rates; Budget press release says "_Beginning April 2021, a new super-deduction will cut companies’ tax bill by 25p for every pound they invest in new equipment meaning they can reduce their taxable profits by 130% of the cost." which I don't understand. UK: helptogrow.campaign.gov.uk/. UK limited companies can pre-register for vouchers for 50% off software up to £500 Details not known, for example whether it's only for limited companies or what software qualifies. Sorry for a rambling post!

In a month or two I hope to have emagicone's https://www.prestashopmanager.com/order/ working. Anyone is welcome to ask questions when done. I'm just writing this as a note to myself: if it's on forum that I'll do it, I'd better do it! They support Prestashop 1.4 and 1.5, so I suppose they will continue to support Prestashop 1.6.1 / Thirtybees although they don't put that in writing. Support for Virtuemart has just ended and they smoothed the process by giving-away licences for free I think; they didn't just pull the plug and stop Virtuemart merchants trading. My $200 bundle included - ebay which I want to learn on - amazon which I hope to do next - mobile app to scan bar codes at the point of sale and to keep track, which I hope to use as it looks useful less useful to me, at least - ugly complex pdf catalogue could be better than nothing (Epson ecotank and premium-inks.com are good for this too; Prestalogik.ch did a module) - database stock views rather like the free parts of Prestoolsuite, so I haven't explored it. It's meant to help with import and export too. - Stamps.com integration if you are in the USA and want USPS labels. - Quickbooks integration if anyone wants to pay for something that can be had for free, and has "sunset" clauses once you have bought it and deliberate incompatibilities to keep you hooked - stiff, robotic, ugly videos and instructions in lots of languages that look like advertisements but might be useful as instructions too - a hard sell: download the free trial and get a discount the reduces by so-many dollars a day. I don't need the hassle - emails to ask if I have taught myself the system yet, which are not answered if I reply and seem to be a sales robot. Anyway this isn't very useful to anyone till I know it works, but as @30knees said, Amazon dominiates online shopping. Google and Bing only seem to let the top few search results compete with their own stuff and web sites that are a page or two down the charts sell very little. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 2021/07/30 Still haven't learned it! ---------------------------------------------------------------- 2021/21/09 Still haven't learned it! It can map one or two products, but it can't find must of my products on ebay and the mapping doesn't seem accurate for quantities when I press "synchronise".