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@zimmer-media thx! I havne't tested it yet, but I like the idea behind it.

@lesley said in Change Product Add Date to affect New: There are lots of hidden things in the code... Like easter eggs. hahah :D who can find them :)

Hm I am very surprised that is working. How can it without changing any php file? Btw I have coded a very similair function in an internal module... In other words: I also would like to see this in core ;)

@dprophitjr very nice to see you back here. I have no idea about wikipedia, but all I hear is similair to what @mdekker says...

@lesley dont worry, I understood you right. I know, that you want to fix. Actually you wrote, what I meant. In the asm you would have to invest at least a week, to have a decent system. Thats why I really hope Michael and you can work fulltime on it. Otherwise it's very hard to fix this things.

@traumflug said in 19 Patron ?!: thirty bees' track record of fixing issues in a timely fashion is pretty good, IMHO. Regularly, only a couple of hard to diagnose bugs survive more than a few days. PS' bug tracker is full of issues unresolved for years, so people might have simply given up on discussing them. Small Bugs are fixed fast. But deep bugs in case of multistore or asm aren't. The argument, that very few use it, is understandable, but doesn't help. Especially in asm it's no wonder. You just can't use asm as a normal merchant. I am sure every merchants who test asm for some hours, will stay away. That's the reason, why I say, that I see no future, if guys like you, Michael and Lesley can't work fulltime on it. The project needs a few people who can rewrite big parts of the software. It takes undoubtly a lot of time to fix asm or to implement a new stock managament. I can't expect it, to be fixed in your freetime...

@30knees we have same problems. I also can't understand, why it is not added. You can cancel the order and afterwards delete it, with a free module: https://mypresta.eu/modules/administration-tools/delete-orders-free.html

One problem of TB is, that it should be compatible with PS 1.6 modules. This makes a lot of wishful changes in the core impossible, right? I wonder, if its possible to transform in steps to "no compability". Pamyent modules are very important. So this modules should be compatible as long as possible. But there are modules which aren't very important or which can be easily rewritten. Development of TB shouldn't be hindered of any stupid "facebook like box" module. You get my question now?

@Briljander Yeah I believe local modules like shipping and payment are the most critical. Since there is often just one dev. @lesley is it no idea to break compability in parts. Let's say some theme related modules will be broken quite soon, but payment and shipping modules will longer be compatible?

@DavidP with the "store" he means a store for modules! @alwayspaws it is no problem, if you can't support with money. You support with a lot of acitvity here, reporting bugs and so on. Thats very helpful for all here! The discussion is about merchants who make 1000$/month and just don't support in any way.

I don't understand your answer :S Maybe my point was also not clear enough. I wanted to say: People who are on shared hosting, have just no cents left. I doubt they can/will afford any algolia service. A VPS is very cheap nowdays. Still a lot are on shared...

@lesley said in 19 Patron ?!: We are trying to work out a deal with Algolia now, for users that cannot set up their own Elastic instance to be able to have another search module choice. I am note sure, if this is the right strategy... Why would somehow stay on a shared hosting, but then invest money in algolia?

@vincentdenkspel yeah but couldn't we say that even more about modules like: blog or mailchimp?

@lesley But what is the plan for next year? So many improvement ideas are answered with something like: "this would break compability." I wonder, if the price isn't too high to guarantee compability? For example: So many merchants want to delete and edit orders. Why can't this be added? I have to agree with @DavidP somehow in the elasticsearch project. Michael is surely working hard on it. It will be a great module, when it's finished. But I guess like five merchants here, will use it. I may be wrong, but my experience with mailchimp module tell me that :(

hehe yeah likely. I would be very surprised, if a patreon already steps back ;)

@Tomik :O wtf

Sure 10$ a month is also nothing if you want to become an online shop. But not many merchants are thinking the way you are :( They prefer to invest hours into work, due to lack of features or bugs, instead of investing very little money to get a better product.

@vincentdenkspel thx for the post! please change 9 to 19 in the text... I completly agree with your point of view. I think most merchants, which are using TB are very small. That means they don't have a lot of budget. But still I have to say: If you can't afford to support with 5$ a month, you should probably forget about ecommerce. Somtimes I have the feeling, that some features aren't even used by any other merchants than us. In advanced stock management and multistore there are so many bugs, that active merchants would (have to) report. Recently I tried to use the mailchimp module. Unfortunately it's not working (with multistore). How can it be, that Michael invest a lot of time in developing and we (merchants) don't even have time, to test and give feedbacks? For the crowdfunding elasticsearch module I see similair problems. Look at it: https://github.com/thirtybees/elasticsearch/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue Almost no feedback by merchants... I know that there are a few feedbacks in the forum, but that is by far not enough. The helpful community here is great, if you have a small problems. But for the longterm success, I have doubts... I was very excited when thirty bees started. The idea is great. But in the last weeks I had to understand, how hard the way is. I don't see any future for this project, if Michael can't work full time on it.

@zimmer-media is it not possible to generate a new invoice?

@zimmer-media I still don't understand where to enter the returned goods!? It seems to me, that only customer can fill it. Edit: Oh I just saw a Button now at the top :O

But this is only for customers right? I don't see any possibility to change my order when activating it...

Hi! I wonder how you merchants handle returns? I don't see any function to manage this in TB Backoffice. Let's say a customers orders the same shirt in two sizes. Obviously he will send one back. How can I handle that? :O

We use sendgrid for that purpose. It's free for us. I think it's a very good solution if your store is small.

I don't remember exactly. But yeah somehow I think your quantities will be lost, when you switch. You should def. make a clone and test everything out, before your change your live shop!

I am using it. You should test it out and report bugs. I fixed some the last weeks, but there are surely some left. But if nobody is using it, it wont get better.