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Right. It's why I have thrown in the 50$/month Freemium model. In my post, I list everyone, who is ready to commit such an amount. Right now we are only 2 persons. Ofc the concept needs to be done much clearer, but if we can not even reach 10 people who say: "oh yeah thats in my budget". Then I don't even beginn to think deeper about it.

Maybe you are on a big listed on a list as a spammer!? You also should checkout, if happens with all emails or only with some email providers.

Even it’s probably not important at all, I will give now my view on things... Since months thirty bees is without a real lead. Since the health issue of Lesley, he has disappeared almost completely. But the problems began already earlier. Remember there was once co-initiator Michael, who suddenly left. As far as I know he gave up his company shares. See the source above. Technically he was replaced by Markus. But Markus never seem to got shares of the company. As far as I know he got some payments, but not near the market cost. Not too surprisingly Markus stopped to work too. Then there was only Petr left. Check out his posts, but in general he worked under even worse condition: a lot of support and commits/fixes for free. I see a pattern in this three cases. While thirty bees revenues were growing, the spendings for development were (probably) decreasing. Now we are all in a ship, that is just driving randomly on the sea. Lesley can’t lead the project anymore as he states himself, all major Devs are gone. No one is in sight. There are only three possible outcomes now: 1. Thirty bees is taken over Is the first scenario realistic? I have my doubts, especially when reading that the offered price for the company was 30 times, what Petr would have considered to invest. I am quite sure, that the valuation was not done properly. I would guess, that the income was used to calculate, but almost no costs. As it would be realistic that devs are always working for low or even no wages. As other already pointed out: the value of thirty bees can’t be very high right now. The code is open source. The value would be the brand, the amount of merchants and mainly the free cash flow. With such a solution I also wonder, who would even be the developper? Hard to imagine that Michael or Markus come back in this scenario. And Petr? Well this post is in his goodbye thread, so... 2. A new fork Some off you seem to think of forking this project again. Yeah it’s possible, but almost all off you, have no idea, what it means. It’s so much work, which again has to be done. Just creating a new fork doesn’t solve the problems. IMO a new fork would need multiple faces, that are ready to invest a lot of time, to maybe make money multiple years later. I read too many “I could do that” or even “this and that should be done”. Where have you been, when testers were needed for new tb versions/commits? Who of you has written documentations? Who of you has written concepts, how features should be redesigned and not only “the feature is bad/not working”? It’s not my goal to offend any off you, but it’s just hard to believe, that we suddenly have a dozen off guys, who will invest multiple hours a week for tb for free. I also see best chances in the proposed freemium system of @rubben1985. But are we enough merchants, which are willing to spend 50 (or more) dollars a month? And even more important: can we hire the right people with this money? Remember money is not the main problem of thirty bees... People who would be ready to pay 50$/month: @wakabayashi @Briljander @rubben1985 @Smile @vincentdenkspel @dynambee 3. The project dies and all merchants have to find their own way of handling it Option three is of course not very attractive. It’s the reason why this thread got hot so quickly 😉 Even if I share a lot of opinions with @toplakd. I am surprised how you can stay so relaxed. In my opinion every ecommerce company needs to get better daily. As I like to say: “You are either the shark of the ocean, or the fish of the ocean!”. We are probably all fishes. Ecommerce has become so hard last years. Some of you might remember @alwayspaws. Even if she was very active here and dedicated a lot of time to here online store, the business never really took off. I know some merchants who made good money by selling smartphone covers years ago. Now you can buy them for 2$ on wish. This niche is just dead. I could go on with with hundreds of such examples, but that wouldn’t help. Thinking “my shop is working now fine, I am safe” is in my opinion too risky. Even if I have to say a fish, at least I don’t want to get eaten by shark. For this I need to develop my shop further and further. Customer get used to the level/features that sharks like amazon offer. Your search/filters suck? Probably you will lose a lot of potential customers. Your mobile version suck? You are probably soon out of the game. Yeah this examples are not new, but new things will come again and we as a shop owner need to go on too. Most merchant’s here have no chance to technically handle that their own.

@Briljander The cash is mainly coming in trough ads revenue, as far as I know.

Hello @datakick It's really sad to read this 😭 I don't know, what this means for the project (maybe the end), but I understand your decision. It's really not up to you alone, to drive this project forward. I want to thank you a lot for your work/time, that you invested for free! I learnt so much from you! 👍 Are you leaving ecommerce as a whole or are you still coding modules and doing customize jobs? Regards Emanuel

Hm I checked the url and understand now, that you don't even see the login page. I thought you will get a white screen after you try to login. Maybe this thread from ps forum can help you: https://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/592769-admin-login-blank-page/

Try to delete your cookies. This could help!

Thanks for the warm words regarding one of my shops 🙂 Interesting because, since a few weeks I am no more that convinced, that my site is super fast or well designed ^^ But ok maybe I am just too ambitious. I am thinking of completly rewrite "my" theme. I believe, there is still room for improvements 🙂 Actually @Traumflug said everything, that is relevant: Get a serious hosting package. We have a dedicated server (unmanaged) and pay 70$/month. If you can't afford this, you have probably more important things to improve, than the loading time. Technically I use css/js caching and APC server side caching. Full Page Cache is completly deactived. Deactivate css and js caching in Bo. Use browser console and check which files are loaded. How big are they? Are they really needed? Check your Content. Do you really need the tags on left column? You really need to promote your local store there? For external modules, check them with profiling in BO, how much they slow down... Defer images, if they are below the fold In general I would say, that the page loading time is one of the strengths of thirty bees.

@Chandra oh ok interesting. As I said this is just my own "solution". In my case it's wanted, that customer can order 5, if we have only 4 left. But he shouldn't been able to order 1 if 0 is left. I know very strange 🤣

@datakick your are right, this doesn't prevent, if you are at payment. But in our case 9 out of 10 times the issue was like that: customer 1 places product x to cart customer 1 is making a pizza 🍕 customer 2 places product x to cart customer 2 orders product x product x is no more available two hours later customer 1 has eaten his pizza and orders product x This case is now prevented. For now we have the issue only left if some customer are ordering inside like 5 minutes product x. My code from above is only a few days old, since we had the "pizza" case a lot in these corona times.

I am not using the inbuilt setting, so I don't know, how it works. But I am using this on checkout: // Check if stock of a product is still available (it could be ordered in the meantime) public function initContent() { $products_in_cart = $this->context->cart->getProducts(); $deleted_products = array(); foreach ($products_in_cart as $product_in_cart) { if ($product_in_cart['quantity_available']==0) { $this->context->cart->deleteProduct($product_in_cart['id_product'], $product_in_cart['id_product_attribute']); $deleted_products[] = $product_in_cart['name']; } } $this->context->smarty->assign( array( 'opc_deleted_products' => $deleted_products, ) ); parent::initContent(); } Maybe it can't help you too...

I don't know where the check of this feature is. If the check is on the addToCart function, then it won't work, when the customer had it already in the cart. It goes like this: customer 1 puts product in the cart customer 2 puts product in the cart customer 1 places the order I am not sure if it's like that. This is just my assmption... Edit: Sorry that is actually your first post 😅 Is there no check on the checkout?

@datakick This joke made my day 🙂

Ich glaube, es wäre ein bisschen riskant, das alles in einer Schleife ablaufen zu lassen. Das Feature ist neu...

😂 👌

Just to make sure: have you heard from "revws" module? It's developped from an active member here and it's much better than the default review module. There is a free and a paid version: https://store.getdatakick.com/en/revws-free

Diese Funktion wurde nicht von Markus implementiert. Die Funktion wurde - soviel ich weiss - mit Absicht nicht eingebaut...

Why can't you just import your database backup into the new database? But TBH, if you have no expierence at all with such actions, I would hire somebody.

I agree with @toplakd Invoices are attached correctly in our case too.

Thx a lot @toplakd and @datakick! I hope once this corona thing is a bit less severe, I can contribute again some stuff on github myself. So I really appreciate everyone, who drives this project forward 🤗

Ah I finally understand how you handle it. Yeah this makes actually sense. 😊 Bad that it's not working as expected 😅 In my use case the problemlays a bit deeper, as my orders often aren't paid when the order gets placed... And you can not add an order with payment amount=0

The payment value won't be updated in this case, does it?

And what would you do, if you remove some products?

When you change an order, you will probably also have this red warning like: The amount of payment doesn't fit the order amount.

Hard to say. I can't remember any such issue. Have you tried to delete all cookies?